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Post by David Sechrest on Sept 10, 2007 21:25:00 GMT -5
marksix was kind enough to send me a link to a blogger that has put together some history of Columbus Indiana bands from the 1960's. I sure do remember some of these...will you? indiana-bands-60s.blogspot.com/
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Post by David Sechrest on May 4, 2008 18:12:13 GMT -5
I thought I posted this info last year, but I can't find it, so I might be dreaming. If I did post it elsewhere, please excuse my spaciness... I went to a record show in Indy last year and met Larry Goshen. Larry played drums in several Indy bands in the 1950's, 1960's, and 1970's. He was good friends with Herb Shriner up until the time of Herb's death. Larry has written a book entitled Let The Good Times Roll, An Anthology Of Indiana Music and being the music fanatic I am, I just had to buy a copy of it (I also picked up from Larry a mint edition of Herb Shriner's TV Harmonica Jamboree, which came from the estate of Mr. Shriner.). On page 8 of his book, Larry lists a band called The Blue Angels. According to the book, The Blue Angels were formed in the summer of 1960, with the original group being Denie Smerdel, Bud Osbourne, Richie Schatz and Buddy Parish. Gregg Galbraith played with the band a year before they disbanded. Gregg, what year did you play with The Blue Angels, and did you ever play at the Whiteland Barn? Was this the first band you joined? Gregg, can you identify the guys in this picture?
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Post by David Sechrest on May 4, 2008 18:24:43 GMT -5
The Armory was once located on the southwest corner of 7th and Franklin Sts. The building is still there, but the Armory isn't (heck, does Columbus even have an Armory anymore?). During the 1940's and 50's, it was a popular place for events ranging from musical acts to wrestling. Boyd Bennett played the Armory on several occasions throughout the 1950's. Maybe some of you will remember going to the Armory and seeing him perform. photo courtesy of Larry Goshen's book Let The Good Times Roll
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Post by David Sechrest on May 4, 2008 18:47:02 GMT -5
One of the bands that recorded on Columbus Indiana's AMP label was the Dawnbeats. Band members were Bob Carrie, Don Harold, Phil Ramey, Morgan Schumacher, and Dick Donahue. They played regularly at the Indiana Roof Ballroom and were a house band at the Whiteland Barn. In 1959, they recorded Drifting and Midnight Express on the AMP label. Morgan Schumacher performed with Chuck Berry and after the death of Bill Haley, he was the drummer for Bill Haley's Comets. photo courtesy of Larry Goshen's book Let The Good Times Roll
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Post by Gregg on May 5, 2008 9:48:05 GMT -5
David, I played with the Blue Angels during my senior year at CHS, which was 1963/ 1964. The band was based in Speedway, and I would make the drive up there once or twice a week to rehearse and then again on weekends to play dances. If we played Friday or Saturday nights, I'd usually stay over at the bass player's house, because we usually played Sunday nights at a sock-hop in Greenfield with Jim Shelton from WIBC. I recall the Greenfield gig paid $4 per man. Not great money, even in those days, but we got to hear Jim mention us on the radio! The photo shows, from left to right, Denie Smerdel, Bud Osboure, who I replaced, Bill Compton, and I'm not sure who the drummer is, as he had been replaced when I went to work with the band. They never played the Whiteland Barn while I was with the group, although I did take dates there a few times to hear other bands. Playing with the Blue Angels was a fun experience, but the schedule was pretty gruelling for a high school student living 50+ miles from the band's headquarters....( at least that's what Mom and Dad ultimately decided.) The first band I played in was "Tommy Purcell's Foot Warmers", based in Columbus, and run by Otto "Barney" and Bernetta Purcell, who owned the flower shop near US 31 and 17th Street. We were all junior high students from Columbus, and we played a lot of lodge dances, proms, and fairs around Southern Indiana. The band members included, besides myself, Don Jessee, Tom Purcell, Ken Heiner, Pat Dooley, and Stu Lawless. Our band instructor was Jerry Manley.
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Post by David Sechrest on May 5, 2008 22:25:48 GMT -5
Thanks to Richard, here is another tie to Columbus Indiana regarding the music scene. Cathy Morris is/was a Columbus Indiana resident and one of the top jazz violinists in the country. She has played with many musicians from the region, toured Japan, and played for Bill Clinton. As of the time the book Let The Good Times Roll was published (2002), she'd released 5 cd's. She received a degree in music from Indiana University. Information courtesy of Larry Goshen and his book Let The Good Times Roll
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Post by David Sechrest on May 5, 2008 22:30:18 GMT -5
David, I played with the Blue Angels during my senior year at CHS, which was 1963/ 1964. The band was based in Speedway, and I would make the drive up there once or twice a week to rehearse and then again on weekends to play dances. If we played Friday or Saturday nights, I'd usually stay over at the bass player's house, because we usually played Sunday nights at a sock-hop in Greenfield with Jim Shelton from WIBC. I recall the Greenfield gig paid $4 per man. Not great money, even in those days, but we got to hear Jim mention us on the radio! The photo shows, from left to right, Denie Smerdel, Bud Osboure, who I replaced, Bill Compton, and I'm not sure who the drummer is, as he had been replaced when I went to work with the band. They never played the Whiteland Barn while I was with the group, although I did take dates there a few times to hear other bands. Playing with the Blue Angels was a fun experience, but the schedule was pretty gruelling for a high school student living 50+ miles from the band's headquarters....( at least that's what Mom and Dad ultimately decided.) The first band I played in was "Tommy Purcell's Foot Warmers", based in Columbus, and run by Otto "Barney" and Bernetta Purcell, who owned the flower shop near US 31 and 17th Street. We were all junior high students from Columbus, and we played a lot of lodge dances, proms, and fairs around Southern Indiana. The band members included, besides myself, Don Jessee, Tom Purcell, Ken Heiner, Pat Dooley, and Stu Lawless. Our band instructor was Jerry Manley. [/size] Gregg, thanks for filling us in!
Just looking at that picture of The Blue Angels, they remind me of The Ventures.
By any chance, do you have any photos of those early bands you played with that could be added here on the message board?
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Post by David Sechrest on May 5, 2008 22:34:06 GMT -5
Gregg, also, do you have any info on AMP that you could share with us? I noticed their address was close to the Crump on 3rd St., and I remember you mentioning that Ernie Kerns had a record shop in that same area. Do you know if Ernie was involved with AMP?
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Post by richard on May 6, 2008 10:30:35 GMT -5
Gregg, also, do you have any info on AMP that you could share with us? I noticed their address was close to the Crump on 3rd St., and I remember you mentioning that Ernie Kerns had a record shop in that same area. Do you know if Ernie was involved with AMP? The following was found in the 1959 Columbus Indiana City Directory. I make no claim that the following information is accurate. From the Third Street address listing; JACKSON STREET intersects302 B. F. Goodrich Co. Tires 304 No return 304 ½ Scott, Dewey Johnson, Mary K. Mrs. 306 Hinkle Music House 306 ½ Accent Music Inc. Amp Records, Manufacture and Dealers 310 Jay C Stores Grocery 312 Mabel’s Bar & Grill 316 Third Street Café restaurant 318 Wagon Wheel Café Tavern 318 ½ Marcus, Paul 320 McQueen, Roy E. Restaurant 320 ½ Piercefield, Ruth Mrs. Used clothing 324 Murray, Elmer E. Barber 326 Farmers Home Tavern 326 ½ Goetz, Marshall B. 330 A & M Cocktail Lounge 332 Straub’s Refrigerator Sales & Service 332 ½ Love, Edward J. Chelk, Harold 334 ½ Penley, Raymond 336 Bob & Earls Barber Shop Washington Street intersectsAs you can see, all of these addresses were across third street from the Courthouse Square.
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Post by jdhinkle on May 6, 2008 13:22:38 GMT -5
I HAVE SENT E MAIL TO CLOYD HINKLE HIS FATHER AND MOTHER RAN THE MUSIC STORE HOPEFULLY HE CAN GIVE US INFO ABOUT THIS Gregg, also, do you have any info on AMP that you could share with us? I noticed their address was close to the Crump on 3rd St., and I remember you mentioning that Ernie Kerns had a record shop in that same area. Do you know if Ernie was involved with AMP? The following was found in the 1959 Columbus Indiana City Directory. I make no claim that the following information is accurate. From the Third Street address listing; JACKSON STREET intersects302 B. F. Goodrich Co. Tires 304 No return 304 ½ Scott, Dewey Johnson, Mary K. Mrs. 306 Hinkle Music House 306 ½ Accent Music Inc. Amp Records, Manufacture and Dealers 310 Jay C Stores Grocery 312 Mabel’s Bar & Grill 316 Third Street Café restaurant 318 Wagon Wheel Café Tavern 318 ½ Marcus, Paul 320 McQueen, Roy E. Restaurant 320 ½ Piercefield, Ruth Mrs. Used clothing 324 Murray, Elmer E. Barber 326 Farmers Home Tavern 326 ½ Goetz, Marshall B. 330 A & M Cocktail Lounge 332 Straub’s Refrigerator Sales & Service 332 ½ Love, Edward J. Chelk, Harold 334 ½ Penley, Raymond 336 Bob & Earls Barber Shop Washington Street intersectsAs you can see, all of these addresses were across third street from the Courthouse Square.
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Post by David Sechrest on Sept 16, 2008 14:57:12 GMT -5
A friend of mine was nice enough to loan me his copy of the Dawnbeats 45 on the AMP label. As stated in an earlier post, the 45 was released in 1959. Side 1 was Midnight Express Side 2 was Drifting
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Post by BobLane on Sept 16, 2008 18:01:57 GMT -5
Hi folks, I remember a group of singers with a good following back in the 1950's. They were a gospel quartet from Bethel Baptist Church named " Bethel Ambassadors. They had really good harmony. Maybe someone has some history on them, who each were and something about them. Bob Lane
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Post by Vinylfool on Sept 27, 2008 20:00:35 GMT -5
Wow, thanks for checking out my blog. I've heard from quite a few '60s Columbus bands, and over time, I'll cover all of them. If you think you have a lead on a '60s band, no matter how small. please feel free to forward me some info. Someone must document this stuff before it's lost to time and failing memories.
All the best, Timothy
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Post by David Sechrest on Dec 1, 2009 0:56:55 GMT -5
I found this information on the www.45rpmrecords.com/index.html website: Amp Records 306 3rd Street Columbus Indiana Owner: Cloyd Hinkle Jack? Can you provide anything else?
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Post by jdhinkle on Dec 1, 2009 13:04:43 GMT -5
I HAVE CLOYD HINKLE'S SON 'S E MAIL
ILL CONTACT HIM AND SEE IF HE CAN HELP
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Post by David Sechrest on Dec 1, 2009 13:19:30 GMT -5
Jack, the 1962 phone book lists Cloyd Hinkle Agency, (rl est) at 306 3rd. Hinkle Music House is also at the same address.
This building would have been where the Commons will be/was/is/whatever. If you check out the pictures on the website (the redevelopment picture of 3rd Street), it would have been the 3rd building on the north side of 3rd, counting from Jackson Street east.
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Post by richard on Dec 1, 2009 13:31:35 GMT -5
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Post by RER on Dec 1, 2009 13:59:07 GMT -5
Now, I remember the Amp Records Shop. It was across the street directly from the Jive Kennel. I recall buying a few 45 RPM records at that store. That address was on the North corner of 5th and Franklin, which later included the hotel area after the 1960s. The time period I would have bought 45s would have been around 1959. After you three had started talking and Richard posted something else, it came to light.
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Post by David Sechrest on Dec 1, 2009 21:28:42 GMT -5
Bob, we might be thinking of two different places. AMP Records was a local Indie (independent) record company. Besides the record by the Dawnbeats, AMP also put out records for Patti Spangler with The Bob Davis Quartet, Jimmie Tennant and The Tennant Hands, Jerry Parsons and The Blue Jeans, and others. At one time, AMP also had a label different than the one posted at the top of this page. It was a solid maroon color with silver letters. Dates of recordings that AMP released range from 1955 to 1960. Indies played an important role in the early days of rock and roll. If it weren't for the Indies, it would be interesting to see how it all would have played out. Mitch Miller, when he was at Columbia, inquired as to how much Elvis Presley's contract would cost. Sam Phillips with Sun Records told him $18-20,000 and he said "forget it. No artist is worth that kind of money." Many hit recordings first came from Indie labels. My interest in music and Columbus history makes me curious about AMP. I'm curious 1) to know if there was a recording studio set up in that 306 3rd Street building, or if a group cut a song elsewhere and brought it to Cloyd Hinkle for pressing; 2) if songs were recorded at 306 3rd, where were the records pressed; and any other info I might be able to find out, especially regarding Cloyd Hinkle himself...(Jack, was Cloyd also involved in Hinkle Hamburgers?) This is the area referenced by the address (the northeast corner of 3rd and Jackson): I'm not sure, but I believe Hinkle's was the green trimmed entrance
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Post by RER on Dec 1, 2009 21:38:16 GMT -5
David, you are probably right, but I do recall for a short time that the corner of 3rd and Franklin Street had a record sales store, but I don't remember the name. It was down the street East from the Gause. It may have not been open that long, but I do remember buying 45s there. Maybe, we will find more information on what you are saying as we press along in discovery of Columbus history. I wish others would provide their thoughts of the past but that is hard to get most of the time.
Bob
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