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Post by RER on Feb 14, 2007 18:20:54 GMT -5
Ref: Nanc
I went back to your 1940s, page 3 at post number 36 and reviewed the pictures again. We both remember the white fences. Coupling your statements and looking at the Congress photos I can sort of paint the picture of the time periods. As you may recall I walked all those places many times in the early 1950s, doing my scouting and adventures of the creek.
I believe today ( but I could be wrong) the bridge was replaced and widened over 7th Street. I think you described the way I envisioned in the early days. The history of the bridge is interesting reading as well as your riding and club experiences along the Hawcreek banks and bridge. Jumping on a dead dog wouldn't be a great thrill I am sure (LOL).
Thanks, for the info ! Brother hasn't read all yet and he will probably conclude the same.
Bob
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Post by nancs on Feb 14, 2007 19:16:41 GMT -5
Some interesting side notes from the Library of Congress data information on the 7th Street Bridge over Hawcreek. One might like to check out the 'Rivers thread' on the message board for some more discussion about this bridge and area. Additionally, in the 'Postcard thread,' my reply # 114, takes the 'history a bit farther back than the Library of Congress data goes,' back to settling of my great grandfather, S. Webber Smith's, estate and mention made in the paperwork referring to a footbridge over Hawcreek at 7th St. Within the Library of Congress data, two mentions really peak my curiosity, and definitely added to my 'ever growing list of research.' Some of this I did attempt in 2006, and really didn't quite have enough info to be very effective in my research, as Richard can testify. ;D Mention was made of the Smith Addition, and according to 'family info I have heard' refers back to S. Webber Smith. Add in the mention of Frank Clevenger, and perhaps it becomes a 'bingo.' Frank Clevenger was the father of Cyrus Clevenger, who in the period soon after WW I was the Columbus civil engineer. C. Clevenger married a Stevens relative, so am somewhat related, there is probably enough now available in the way of info from the Library of Congress data to make it much easier to track down and confirm some missing history that I want to verify. I share this 'trivia,' and that is what it truly is, just to point out the value of these message boards, and how one piece of history shared, opens wide the doors to figure out other missing pieces in the puzzle. The sharing is what it is 'all about.' Thanks goes to Bob for opening some of these doors. Nanc
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Post by David Sechrest on May 30, 2007 0:07:39 GMT -5
The old State Highway Garage that was located on the N-E corner of 25th St. and Central Ave. [/size] George, was this picture taken from 25th St. looking north? I remember the buildings, just can't place the way the pic is taken!
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2007 12:18:00 GMT -5
Hi David,
This picture was taken looking to the north, on the far right side of the picture the Public Service tower can be seen in the distance.
George
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Post by Jason Hatton on Sept 13, 2007 12:54:30 GMT -5
Greetings, I just wanted to let you all know about a fantastic resource the Bartholomew County Public Library recently acquired. Are you familiar with the Sanborn Fire Insurance Maps? Sanborn maps are valuable historical tools for anyone who wants to learn about the history, growth, and development of American cities, towns, and neighborhoods. They are large-scale maps that show a snapshot in time of what an area looked like. They include information such as the outline of each building, the size, shape and construction materials, heights, and function of structures, location of windows and doors. The maps also give street names, street and sidewalk widths, property boundaries, building use, and house and block numbers. Textual information on construction details (for example, steel beams or reinforced walls) is often given on the plans while shading indicates different building materials. Extensive information on building use is given, ranging from symbols for generic terms such as stable, garage, and warehouse to names of owners of factories and details on what was manufactured in them. In the case of large factories or commercial buildings, even individual rooms and the uses to which they were put are recorded on the maps. Other features shown include pipelines, railroads, wells, dumps, and heavy machinery. The library has had microfilm versions of the maps for some time now but recently purchased a database to provide electronic access to all the maps from the state of Indiana. The maps available for Columbus are: Jan. 1886, Feb. 1890, Dec. 1892, Apr. 1898, Sept. 1906, Jan. 1912, Jan. 1927, and Jan. 1927-1947. To access the maps, simply visit our homepage at www.barth.lib.in.us and click on “Sanborn Maps- Indiana” in the third column from the left. If you are inside the library, you can click on the “To log in at the library” link. You can also get this wonderful database from home. However, due to licensing restrictions you have to contact the reference department the first time you use it to get the username and password. You may stop by, call (812) 379-1266, or email reference@barth.lib.in.us to get this information. I hope you will take the time to look at this great resource! Jason Hatton Reference Librarian Bartholomew County Public Library
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Post by pkw052 on Sept 18, 2007 17:14:55 GMT -5
this is the station my daddy had he and friends would go there and build stock cars and raced them . he was known as banjo arnold
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2007 18:44:50 GMT -5
PKW052,
I knew your father Banjo, your picture of the station did not post, but I believe the station was at 4th and Jackson St. I remember the race cars and I believe they raced the cars at the Columbus Speedway. Did your father have a brother by the name of Billy?, if so I knew him also, and he was in the Navy in the early 1950's.
George
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Post by pkw052 on Sept 21, 2007 17:37:47 GMT -5
dear mr george: yes his brothers name are billy and eddie and lehman. i have pictures but i have never figure out how to put to on the computer. uncle bill lives in kentucky and uncle eddie lives in north vernon. also mr. george here is a link to some photos i found in my closet. s212.photobucket.com/albums/cc144/darkfirechampion/ hope this helps.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2007 20:02:32 GMT -5
PKW052,
I recognize your father in the pictures. The #1 picture is his service station that was located on the S-W corner of 4th and Jackson St. I had a uncle that owned the station before your father did. The next time you talk to your uncle Billy ask him if he remembers me, we were both in the navy at the same time, stationed in San Diego, California .
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Post by jay on Dec 27, 2007 10:38:07 GMT -5
This picture is of the old 2nd Street Bridge. Info I received: 2nd St Bridge, and just north of it was a large hill (and House) they cut down for the road (my note: the home that once sat here was also where the Schwartzkopf's lived). It was Tipton Knoll, the home of Mr. Tipton who left Columbus because they would not name it Tipton and then was the road commissioner for the state of Indiana. Because of his dislike for Columbus for refusing to name it Tipton he build the first bypass road ever built. He was in charge of building a road from Indianapolis to Louisville and just south of Franklin he built the Mauxferry Road and brought it south and around the west side of Columbus and then back to Seymour. The Mauxferry was cut off when Camp Atterbury came, but goes north and south thru the camp and comes out of the camp west of Taylorsville on the Ohio Ridge Road and goes along side Camp Atterbury all the way down to the Georgetown road where the camp quits on its southern border. Mauxferry road then goes south to IN 46. My own thoughts here: I don't remember the 2nd Street bridge when growing up in Columbus in the late 50's/early60's. I remember the 3rd Street bridge (of course), but I do remember the old Tipton home, or Schwartzkopf mansion, or whatever you care to call it. It sat on the right side (north) of 3rd Street just before crossing the 3rd Street bridge. I think it was a VFW home when I was a kid. I couldn't be wrong here, but I thought they tore this house down in conjunction with cleaning up Death Valley. Maybe someone can help me clarify this thought.
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Post by jay on Dec 27, 2007 10:57:54 GMT -5
Mauxferry road - Miss information in Columbus history.
The Mauxferry/Madison state roads are Indiana's most historic roads because they were the first major roads built in the state of Indiana. Platted in 1822 and built in 1823-1825 before Columbus was little more than a village with a few cabins.
Mis-information:
1. The road (Mauxferry) does not go to Louisville or Seymour.
2. It did not by-pass Columbus on purpose.
Twin roads were built at the same time 1823. One from Madison and one from Maucks ferry (near Corydon) to Indianapolis. There were no bridges on these two roads.
The Mauxferry road stayed on the west side of the driftwood river and finally crossed the White river at the Sheildstown ford near Brownstown.
The Madison state road help built the village of Columbus - (where is that in your history?).
It came into the small village of Columbus and then followed the Flatrock river north and finally forded the rivr were highway 31 crosses the river.
Jay - Road researcher
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Post by RER on Dec 27, 2007 11:17:09 GMT -5
Reference Jay Wrote:
Refer to a partial response to this posting: Re: 1800's Life In Columbus & Bartholomew County See reply 161
Additionally see reply 162,163 and 164.
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Post by jdhinkle on Jan 27, 2008 15:18:52 GMT -5
I SAW THE COMMENT FROM JIM HINDS ABOUT TEXACO I WENT WITH TOM HINDS TO TRAFALGAR TO DELIVER GAS TOM WAS JIMS OLDER BROTHER TOM AND DON HALL ME AND MY BROTHER JERRY HINKLE HAD SOME GOOD PINNACHLE GAMES ON THE KITCHEN TABLE TOM AND JERRY ALWAYS WON DON AND I THOUGHT THEY MUST BE CHEATING
JACK HINKLE
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Post by ckjewalker on Feb 18, 2008 14:26:10 GMT -5
'Columbus Youth Camp's "Big House''
I remember going there for boy scouts and my grandfather had a picture of him as a kid, at the "Big House".
The Harts are a relation (cousin) to us (the Walker's). I now live in Wisconsin and it's great to run across some nostalgia from my childhood.
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Post by ruthie on May 8, 2008 20:16:44 GMT -5
What a grand mansion! Does anyone know where it was located? In further review, it appears that there are words above the entrance. It looks like they say "Francis Cory," and then I can't make out the last word. Park maybe? I really don't think this home was in Columbus... This may have already been said, but this house is the one that sits on 16th street across of grand ave. Supposed to be one the first and more extravagant homes in Columbus.
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Post by jdhinkle on May 9, 2008 10:59:56 GMT -5
AGAIN I MAY BE HAVING A BAD DAY BUT THE HOUSE FACING 16TH STREET AT GRAND AVE WAS CALLED NUGENT MANSION. I THINK IT MAY BE A BED AND BREAKFAST PLACE NOW. I DON'T THINK THIS IS A PICTURE OF IT COULD IT BE THE BUILDING THAT USED TO BE NEXT TO THE HOSPITAL MAYBE THE NURSES BUILDING RIGHT NORTH OF THE NUGENT MANSION WAS WERTZ MEMORIAL EUB CHURCH I KNOW SHARON HART LIVED ACROSS THE STREET(DR HART'S DAUGHTER) AND CAROL SUE HAMILTON LIVED NEXT TO SHARON ON 16TH STREET What a grand mansion! Does anyone know where it was located? In further review, it appears that there are words above the entrance. It looks like they say "Francis Cory," and then I can't make out the last word. Park maybe? I really don't think this home was in Columbus... This may have already been said, but this house is the one that sits on 16th street across of grand ave. Supposed to be one the first and more extravagant homes in Columbus.
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Post by nancs on May 11, 2008 9:06:50 GMT -5
What a grand mansion! Does anyone know where it was located? In further review, it appears that there are words above the entrance. It looks like they say "Francis Cory," and then I can't make out the last word. Park maybe? I really don't think this home was in Columbus... This may have already been said, but this house is the one that sits on 16th street across of grand ave. Supposed to be one the first and more extravagant homes in Columbus. I do not believe that this home was the nurses' residence at Bartholomew County Hospital in the 1920s. Check out 'Pictures of Columbus' thread, p. 7, reply # 66. columbusin.proboards34.com/index.cgi?board=pictures&action=display&thread=171&page=7Nor, in my humble opinion, is it the Nugent home. Check out 'Miscellaneous Columbus Indiana,' p. 10, Reply # 98. columbusin.proboards34.com/index.cgi?board=miscellaneous&action=display&thread=219&page=10Anyone else with an opinion---------------? Nanc
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Post by Don on Jun 14, 2008 22:05:10 GMT -5
In the Library of Congress Columbus Famous 7th Street 1913 Bridge Seventh Street Bridge, Spanning Haw Creek at Seventh Street, Columbus, Bartholomew County, INMany Hawcreek pictures are included and areas I walked and where someone else on the board rode horses. Note: The Library of Congress has a total of 15 pictures from various time periods. Go to this address to call them up for viewing. Double click each picture to see a larger view of the individual pictures. Go here (just click below):memory.loc.gov/cgi-bin/ampage?collId=hhphoto&fileName=in/in0400/in0415/photos/browse.db&action=browse&recNum=0&title2=Seventh%20Street%20Bridge,%20Spanning%20Haw%20Creek%20at%20Seventh%20Street,%20Columbus,%20Bartholomew%20County,%20IN&displayType=1&itemLink=D?hh:3:./temp/~ammem_YYs5:: ATTENTION: If the above pictures didn't enlarge go to this site and type in the left block titled Search this Collection: Bartholomew County Indiana Then you will see this menu for 4 famous Columbus items. Double Click the choice. memory.loc.gov/ammem/collections/habs_haer/index.htmlThe Choices are: After you click your choice click the antique camera twice.1. Zaharako's Ice Cream Parlor, 329 Washington Street, Columbus, Bartholomew County, IN 2. Cerealine Manufacturing Company, Mill A, Jackson & Brown Streets, Columbus, Bartholomew County, IN 3. Reeves Pulley Company, Seventh & Wilson Streets, Columbus, Bartholomew County, IN 4. Seventh Street Bridge, Spanning Haw Creek at Seventh Street, Columbus, Bartholomew County, IN Bob
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Post by Jason Hatton on May 6, 2009 15:35:46 GMT -5
Unfortunately, due to rising costs, low usage, and budget considerations the library will be ceasing it subscription to the Digital Sandborn Fire Insurance Maps. Our subscription will run through the end of May. The library still will have the maps from Columbus available for use in the library. If you have any questions, please do not hesitate to call me. Jason Hatton Library Services Manager Bartholomew County Public Library 812-379-1266 reference@barth.lib.in.us
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2010 15:55:50 GMT -5
A 1959 view from our house at 1708 Hawcreek Ave looking east, the old hospital can be seen in the back ground and the 1st. hole on the city golf course can be seen in the fore ground. Also the old 17th St. bridge is shown.
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