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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2005 20:26:51 GMT -5
The 1945 Dunlap fire on Jackson St.
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Post by David Sechrest on Oct 25, 2005 12:32:53 GMT -5
Great pictures, George! If I remember correctly, weren't there some pictures of the Dunlap fire in the fire Department booklet posted on the website? By the time that the Central Fire Department was built, they tore down old Number one, which once sat due west of the old City Hall. How many other fire departments were located in both Columbus and East Columbus? Was the old firehouse over by Arvin Headquarters still being used?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2005 20:55:00 GMT -5
David, Dunlap and Company had three major fires, 1924, 1938 and 1945. Station 1 on 5th. street and station 2 at 13th. and Hutchins ave. would have answered the alarm to the 1924 and 1938 fires. The 1945 fire would have been the new central fire station and station 2. The city of Columbus just had one fire station until the station at 13th. and Hutchins opened in 1909. Station 3 opened with the annexation of East Columbus. The old station 3 was a building at Indiana and Cleveland st. used as a tire shop. The city bought the building from a Mr. James Dickey and the firemen converted it into a fire station. New station 3 is now on Gladstone ave. The city now has 6 stations.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2005 21:38:33 GMT -5
Something not seen in fire stations today. The fire pole at old fire station 2 at 13th. and Hutchins ave.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2005 21:47:42 GMT -5
Fireman Donald Stickan coming down the fire pole at station 2.
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Post by nancs on Oct 27, 2005 9:34:42 GMT -5
Super fire station photos, George. The one I recall was Station # 2, as it was near Garfield. And what really puzzles me somewhat, I don't remember ever going on a 'field trip' through that station-----it was surely walking distance from school, and rather surprises me that Miss Hazel didn't take the first graders there----she was so 'into' that kind of thing. Maybe she or another teacher did, but I sure don't remember it. Thanks for sharing. Nanc
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2005 20:01:27 GMT -5
This picture appeared in the Nov. 17, 1967 issue of Life Magazine along with a article about Columbus and it’s architecture . The picture is Fire Station # 2 on Central Ave. Pictured with the shift that day is the station mascot “Little George”. Little George made all the fire runs out of Station 2 with engine 2 for almost 11years. Little George became a member of the department in December of 1965 when a family leaving town donated the puppy for the cheer fund that year, but the men at the station decided to keep him. He became an institution in Columbus. There were several articles in the local paper about Little George and his life at the fire house. He would go with the firemen to the local schools for fire drills and was always a big attraction with the children. He was always a great greeter at station 2. Little George died in Oct. of 1976 and is buried in front of the fire bell at Fire Station #2..
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Post by Rhonda on Nov 13, 2005 19:22:53 GMT -5
George,
Is this the fire station that is now called the Orinoco? Do you have much info about it?
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Post by richard on Nov 14, 2005 7:28:03 GMT -5
Hello George,
I have a few questions about your 1917 American La France ladder truck posting. Perhaps your answers will be interesting to more than me!
I’m not sure I see a big ladder laying on top of the bed. Did this truck have the ladder that raises from the truck? If your answer is no, does that mean that it just carried ladders that the fireman raised from the ground? How tall of a building would those ladders reach? I’m thinking about the Courthouse and the other tall buildings downtown.
I see a silver bell on the left side of this truck. Was it used to alert the other people on the streets and not a siren as they use today? I don’t think I see a steering wheel behind that bell. Did the driver set on the right side of this truck? Did the driver ring the bell AND keep the truck under control at the same time?
It’s hard to believe that this truck is more than thirty years old at that time? Do today’s fire trucks last that long? I see a hand crank hanging at the front. Is the crank for back-up or was that used to start this truck?
One more thing, are they still making fire trucks without a cab?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2005 20:05:07 GMT -5
Rhonda, Fire Station no. 2 at 13th. and Hutchins ave.was opened in Jan. 1909. At that time it was located in the area of Columbus referred as Maple Grove. In 1963 it was replaced by the No. 2 fire station at 27th. and Central ave. Old station No. 2 was sold to Arvin. Arvin had it until they merged with Meritor. I really don't know who the owner is now. Both myself and my father worked at the old station, it was the station with the fire pole. Living quarters was up stairs, the pole being more quickly when the alarm sounded than using the stairs. The old station was a neighborhood gathering place, a card game or the latest news, about like the general store. I don't know it's future, I hope it's not the wrecking ball.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2005 20:10:58 GMT -5
Hi Richard, The 1917 American LaFrance Ladder truck was a 4 cylinder chain-driven truck and had right hand steering. It did have electric starting, the crank was used in case of a dead battery, as was most of the vehicles at that time The truck appears to have hand ladders only, from the picture it looks like the ladders range maybe up to 50 ft. length. A fire at the court house would have called for an inside attack on the fire. I do not see a siren on the truck.The ladder truck would have followed the engine to the fire, the engine having a siren .The engine at that time had a hand crank siren, the engine would have been the 1917 American LaFrance. The 1917 American LaFrance was still in standby service at station 3 when I was stationed there in 1958. Do you remember " Mary Frances" Richard?. The bell was used on the return trip back to the station when I was on the dept. I suppose before the siren the bell was used to warn the public that a fire truck was coming. The old ladder truck was retired on Jan.22, 1947 by a new 65ft. Aerial truck made by the Seagrave Co.out of the state of Ohio. The old ladder truck was moved from station 1 to station 2 and was in standby service for several years at that station. The truck later was sold to the American Legion for parades, but I don’t believe that it was ever used for that purpose. It sat behind the post on Washington St. for a while and latter sold I guess.
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Post by David Sechrest on Nov 22, 2005 11:56:20 GMT -5
You know something? I've never thought much about it, but that tower at the top: Do you think it was, more or less, a lookout in the early days? Or, did it serve another purpose?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2005 20:29:13 GMT -5
Hi David, The tower was a bell tower. When the station was opened in 1909 the city only had five paid members on the dept. and they were at station #1 on 5th.st., the rest of the members were volunteers. The city added three more paid members to man the new fire station and depended on the volunteers for more manpower. The bell was used to alert the volunteers of a fire. The old fire bell was placed in the front yard of the new station #2 at 27th. and Central Ave. when it opened. I hope you are feeling better, I can relate to your problem, I had the same thing and it is no fun, get well soon and have a great Thanksgiving.
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Post by David Sechrest on Nov 23, 2005 0:23:09 GMT -5
George, thanks for all the info, as well as the good wishes!
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Post by Rhonda on Nov 23, 2005 21:40:14 GMT -5
David,
I recently went to the open house of the "new" BCSC administration offices........in the former Arvin Headquarters/Garfield School. Mr. Quick told me to be sure to go up in the tower of the old school and told me it WAS a former fire look-out. He said someone used to sit up there and could see in all four directions and out over the entire city of Columbus.......and watch for smoke........so they could alert the fire houses. It was amazing to climb up there and you really could see a great distance in all directions!
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Post by nancs on Jan 9, 2006 10:30:01 GMT -5
Hi to all, and neat photos, Richard. AND of course, I have a couple of questions ;D-----Otto Gatten, did he have a 'service station/car repair place' there on probably, State St. in the vicinity of Hinman in E. Columbus? Think that if he is who I am thinking of, had a couple of horses, JK, help, they were white-ish, perhaps, albino? ?? Know somebody had an albino, just not sure who. And Kenneth Smith-----would that be 'Bucky Smith' who went to Garfield, and would have been 'close' to CHS class of '55? Nanc
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Post by richard on Jan 9, 2006 11:52:38 GMT -5
Nancy, Yes Otto and Frona along with son Jerry and his wife Regina lived at 1531 State Street which was about two blocks east of the Haw Creek Bridge. I think Jerry and Regina lived upstairs at that address. I do recall horses in the lot south of Otto’s house and automobile repair shop. The repair shop was next to the house on the east side.
The Kenny Smith in the picture was raised in Michigan and was the Body Shop foreman at the local Chevrolet dealership.
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Post by JamesK on Jan 14, 2006 11:29:34 GMT -5
Hi Nanc....Now that you mention it, I believe Gattens did have a horse or two. Lonnie Jenkins lived about 4 - 5 houses south of Otto's car repair shop on Hinman Street. Jenkins, however, did not have a pasture or lot, so Richard, it must have be Gattens that had their horses in a lot south of their house.
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Post by David Sechrest on Jan 14, 2006 11:44:27 GMT -5
Richard, the building on the far left is the old Fruit Market?
Wasn't the area where the truck is sitting a farm implement dealer in the 1960's?
This would all be in the approximate location where Irwin Union is today.
One last thing: I bet State Street in the above picture was two lane instead of 4, huh?
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Post by richard on Jan 14, 2006 13:49:46 GMT -5
Yes, it was The State Street Market, in the 1959 City Directory. The 1959 directory lists Bulie O. and Iva O. Perdue at the rear of 2041 State Street. Also listed at 2041 is L. Nettie, widow of Joe Perdue. Also listed under Perdue is Jerry, clerk but without an address. I think that market was also known as the Perdue Market. The 1953 directory lists that business as the Fruitland Market with Stanley and Mabel Stout living at the 2441 State Street address. Mr. Stout was listed as employed at Arvin Industries. Perhaps Mrs. Stout operated the Market.
In 1959, the East Side Equipment Company, owned by Eugene S. and Betty S. Kirshman at 2011 State Street was located next to the Fire Department. I believe it was the International Dealer. In 1953 the listing is Glenn Oldham Trucking at 2011 State Street and Fisher’s Moving and Storage, Aero Mayflower Transit Company at 2031 State Street. The truck in front of the second building looks to be of the type used to install signs. It runs in my mind that Glen C. Williams Jr. may have operated his Brite-Lite Sign Company at that location at some point in time. I need to make a trip downtown to see what I can find in the Indiana Room.
The East Columbus Fire Department was on the southeast corner of State and Pence Streets. I can recall being a Patrol Boy at the State Street School and Otto Gatten and I believe Bill Palmer would pass the school crosswalk while going to the fire station. We would then keep an eye on the station to see if the trucks were coming back west past the school.
The road was indeed four lanes in the group picture. Notice the station drive in each picture. In the group picture, the drive is asphalt and in the picture with the yellow army type grass fire truck the drive has curbs and is cement. When the state put in the four lanes, it included a new entrance to the “new” road. At that time the department trustees signed a contract for the state’s contractor to install a new drive while they were doing the work on the road.
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