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Post by David Sechrest on Feb 24, 2007 19:35:56 GMT -5
This Thread is set up to talk about school topics in general.
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Post by David Sechrest on Feb 24, 2007 19:38:30 GMT -5
I moved this Post from "The Present: Columbus Today" Thread: The Sunday Republic of February 4, 2007, headlined about 'Grade School Basketball Tournaments on Super Saturday.' Within the article it mentioned that this was the 20th annual basketball tournament in the school district, for fifth and sixth graders. This generated a couple of thoughts in this 'aging brain.' One, I do remember that Garfield and other schools were referred to as 'grade schools.' Just making an educated guess here, 'grade school' is a geographic specific 'name,' as in CA, K through 6 schools would be referred to as elementary schools, with nary a thought of 'grade school' to identify same. Secondly--------20th ANNUAL TOURNAMENT??? I, for one, recall 'annual tournaments' between the grade schools in town, back in the mid to late 40s. Then, it was only the 6th grade boys that participated on the gym floor, no girl teams. BUT, the 6th grade girls did the cheerleading tasks, and practiced every bit as much as the boys did to ready for the upcoming tournament. Every recess and lunch time found the guys out on the dirt basketball court practicing, and the girls 'fine tuning' their 'yells.' Believe that is what we called them, 'yells, not cheers.' Almost think we were identified as 'yell leaders.' Seems to me that the 'tournaments of the 40s' went on for at least an entire weekend. The Pearl Street gym was packed to capacity. Each grade school had a designated place to sit in the bleachers. What fun it was!!! I am so puzzled that the event in 2007 was labeled as the 20th Annual, as I really think these tournaments went on long, long before that. Perhaps, in all fairness, this is the 20th Annual that is under the direct sponsorship of the local school district. GO GARFIELD!!!! And our colors were red and blue. No pompoms did we have back then, we tied red and blue ribbons on our wrists. Anybody else remember these special moments in time?? What about your grade school??? GO COLTS------Victory, Victory is our cry.........................V-I-C-T-O-R-Y
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Post by David Sechrest on Feb 24, 2007 19:49:16 GMT -5
I moved this Posting from The Present: Columbus Indiana Today Category NancWell, I may know the answer on this 20 year basketball tournament.
During the 1950s up to around 1957 most grade schools such as Azalia, Clifty, Booth-Sester, Wilson, Taylorsville, Clifford, Lutheran, 25th Street, Jefferson, Garfield, McKinley and State Street and others plus or minus some of these listed; had 7th and 8th Grade Basketball teams.
Then around 1956 or 1957 the county had a school consolidation program. This eliminated the 7th and 8th Grade and placed most of them into Central Junior High School (old high school). Grade schools were left with grades lower than 7th. This hurt the feeder program for basketball players for the Columbus High School for many years later.
Before the first consolidation as Nanc has pointed out, there were annual school tournaments in the Pearl Street Gym. I know because Richard, his brother, myself and many others played in those games.
Back in those early 1950s I don't recall the 5th and 6th grades playing much organized basketball. Apparently, over the recent twenty year span they have started a new grade level of basketball competition among the 5th and 6th grade kids. This is a plus for those young kids and promotes a rebirth of a feeder system for East and North High Schools, I suppose.
Historically, early feeder system basketball came from the old Boy Club players, through the 7th and 8th grade system. Then Junior High School took over those grades through grade 9. The Senior High School at that time had the Bullpups and Bulldogs at present North High School.
I could be in error on some of the details but this is probably very close to the history of grade school sports, from the non-consolidation days through the present consolidation's basketball.
Oh, and yes they did call the girls "Yells" because I found my scape book and it says Yells. High School changed the Yells to Cheerleaders.
Maybe, someone else knows more to add on this or change.
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Post by David Sechrest on Feb 24, 2007 19:51:03 GMT -5
I moved this Posting from The Present: Columbus Indiana Today Category: Thanks Bob, for your great input.
The only part that I don't 'understand,' I guess-----in the mid to late 40s, as an example, Garfield only went to 6th grade. (Don't think there was even a kindergarten, at least wasn't when I started school, beginning at first grade.) From Garfield, and the 6th grade basketball tournaments that I recall, I went directly to Wilson Junior High, for 7th and 8th grades. In all honesty, I don't remember there being a basketball team, altho' would suspect there might have been. (Anyone know for sure?)
Thanks for sharing.
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Post by David Sechrest on Feb 24, 2007 19:53:07 GMT -5
The following Post was moved from The Present: Columbus Indiana Today Category: Bob
When I wrote the piece above I was thinking Garfield didn't have 7th and 8th grade basketball, and that is why I put the quote above in the language.
Now, for Wilson they had 7th and 8th grade teams in 1955 because Richard's brother Larry played for Wilson. Wilson beat Clifty (my school) 39-33 that year. Wilson, was one of the toughest grade school teams around that year.
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Post by David Sechrest on Feb 24, 2007 20:02:39 GMT -5
I moved this Post from The Present: Columbus Indiana Today Category: Nanc Well, I may know the answer on this 20 year basketball tournament.
During the 1950s up to around 1957 most grade schools such as Azalia, Clifty, Booth-Sester, Wilson, Taylorsville, Clifford, Lutheran, 25th Street, Jefferson, Garfield, McKinley and State Street and others plus or minus some of these listed; had 7th and 8th Grade Basketball teams.
Then around 1956 or 1957 the county had a school consolidation program. This eliminated the 7th and 8th Grade and placed most of them into Central Junior High School (old high school). Grade schools were left with grades lower than 7th. This hurt the feeder program for basketball players for the Columbus High School for many years later.
Before the first consolidation as Nanc has pointed out, there were annual school tournaments in the Pearl Street Gym. I know because Richard, his brother, myself and many others played in those games.
Back in those early 1950s I don't recall the 5th and 6th grades playing much organized basketball. Apparently, over the recent twenty year span they have started a new grade level of basketball competition among the 5th and 6th grade kids. This is a plus for those young kids and promotes a rebirth of a feeder system for East and North High Schools, I suppose.
Historically, early feeder system basketball came from the old Boy Club players, through the 7th and 8th grade system. Then Junior High School took over those grades through grade 9. The Senior High School at that time had the Bullpups and Bulldogs at present North High School.
I could be in error on some of the details but this is probably very close to the history of grade school sports, from the non-consolidation days through the present consolidation's basketball.
Oh, and yes they did call the girls "Yells" because I found my scape book and it says Yells. High School changed the Yells to Cheerleaders.
Maybe, someone else knows more to add on this or change.
Bob Hello, where do I start with my two cents worth! RER and Nanc have a very interesting discussion about the Jr. High and grade school (elementary) schools basketball teams and ‘yell leaders’. The dictionary lists the following (elementary school >noun a primary school, especially (N. Amer.) For the first six or eight grades.)
I think grade schools went the way of dinner and supper! Today, it’s lunch and Dinner. What about the term, ‘coast to coast’, now its ‘world wide’! Today ‘yell leaders’ are ‘cheer squads’!
Nanc, if memory serves me, we had ‘city schools’ and ‘county or township school’, then in the late 40's or early 50's East Columbus was annexed and the East Columbus school, which I think was funded by the township trustee became a ‘city school’ and renamed State Street.RER wrote “During the 1950's up to around 1957 most grade schools such as Azalia, Clifty, Booth-Setser, Wilson, Taylorsville, Clifford, Lutheran, 25th Street, Jefferson, Garfield, McKinley and State Street and other plus or minus some of these listed; had 7th and 8th grade Basketball teams.”
I would add Elizabethtown, Petersville, Kent, Wayne Jonesville Ogilville and Jackson Township and the city school, Lincoln, to your list of schools. I’m not sure, but did St. Bartholomew Catholic have a team?
Many of these buildings had a gymnasium. Today grade/elementary schools have multipurpose rooms which serve as the cafeterias and gymnasium. So you remember that we were NOT allowed to walk on the gymnasium floor with our ‘street shoes’? How many times have you seen students rushing the floor after a large win? What’s changed? Oh my, I better not start there!
Then came the ‘CONSOLIDATION OF THE LOCAL SCHOOL SYSTEM’. The Bartholomew Consolidated School Corporation was born. This consolidation included all township schools, except the Parochial Schools within Columbus and the township schools of Flat Rock and Haw Creek townships plus the Town of Hope schools.
In 1954, I attended the one class of 7th grade at State Street School. In 1955, I was at Wilson as an 8th grader and 1956, I was a Freshman at the Columbus High School at 7th and Pearl.
To view Basketball letters from these schools look for reply #78 at this link, columbusin.proboards34.com/index.cgi?board=1950s&action=display&thread=1110776011&page=6
If this link fails, go to page 6 in the thread “1950's And Columbus Indiana.”
In 1957 and the opening of the ‘new 25th street High School, the Bartholomew Consolidated School Corporation became a 6 - 3 - 3 system. Columbus High School became, ‘Columbus Senior High School’ and Wilson Jr. High School became ‘Columbus Jr. High School’.The class of 1957 was the first graduating class, at the ‘Columbus Senior High School’, in the ‘new’ twenty-fifth street campus. By the way, this class will be celebrating their 50th Anniversary Class Reunion on Saturday, July 7, this year.[/size][/size]
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Post by David Sechrest on Feb 24, 2007 20:06:28 GMT -5
I moved this Post from The Present: Columbus Indiana Today Category: Great input, Richard, on the schools, etc. Thanks for adding your two cents worth.
Brings up another question, one that I really 'never' thought much about til now----------the 'organization' of the city schools and the township schools, etc.-------does that 'explain why the 'country' kids were bussed into town,' and often 'us city kids' did not know them until junior high, and perhaps even high school? Never really gave that much thought.
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Post by David Sechrest on Feb 24, 2007 20:17:15 GMT -5
This Post was moved from The Present: Columbus Indiana Today: When I went to Garfield, we had a basketball team even though we only went thru either fifth or sixth grade. I know because I was a cheerleader for this basketball team. We did not have kindergarden and I only went through the fifth grade before we moved out to Rocky Ford Road (or what is now RFR...used to be just a Rural Route). [/size]
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Post by havoline on Mar 3, 2007 14:16:22 GMT -5
Dave -
Unless I overlooked it, there's no section devoted to 25th Street Grade School (the initial portion of the "new" high school on 25th Street) which replaced the old "barracks" grade school, and was in operation from the Fall of 1953 through the Spring of 1957 (when it, in turn, was replaced by Schmitt School on 27th Street).
- Jim Hinds
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Post by havoline on Mar 3, 2007 14:24:17 GMT -5
Dave -
One more ommission - the Clay Township School, which sat north of Petersville. It was combined with the old Clifty School (on the Hartsville Pike, just east of US31) to form the new Clifty Creek Elementary School.
- Jim Hinds
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Post by RER on Mar 3, 2007 14:31:49 GMT -5
The Old Clifty School Which Is Below Was Replaced As You Said By The New Structure Old School.. ..New School The new Clifty is on the same property, but much more modern. Historically, Clifty and Booth-Sester were the same designed buildings. I went to Clifty and prior to the 25th Street Barracks School. Welcome aboard Jim Hinds ! We hope you continue adding to the board comments and your experiences and history. Bob
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Post by RER on Mar 3, 2007 15:53:02 GMT -5
New Columbus High School (CHS) Being Built During 1955 & 1956 At 25th StreetTwo pictures show the progress from the 1956 Log Source: Pictures from 1956 Log. The individuals are staff personnel of the school. Bob
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Post by Babs on Mar 3, 2007 16:32:50 GMT -5
If I'm not mistaken the gentleman in the first picture with the hat on is Mr. Fish, who was my Economics teacher. The lady looks familiar but I can't put a name to her right now; maybe later if I think about it for a while.
In the second picture, the lady is Shirley Lyster who was an English teacher at CHS.
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Post by nancs on Jul 31, 2007 18:45:49 GMT -5
As I begin, in earnest, sorting through things that my mom saved, frankly it is difficult to decide what I want to share first. Today, I found a small booklet, dated November 1948, which sort of advertises the public school system in Columbus, with many photos of unidentified students from elementary school through high school. Thought it would be fun to begin posting this multi-paged booklet. The cover! (Stay tuned, this is NOT working, computer dummy here! WHEW, finally figured it out!!!! AND just an FYI, Richard didn't have to help me!!!! Nanc
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Post by nancs on Jul 31, 2007 19:05:51 GMT -5
AND for the immediate practice, the second page: More will follow, perhaps tomorrow. Nanc ;-)
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Post by Bob on Aug 7, 2007 18:36:46 GMT -5
I wonder if Wilson Grade School will get a place on this site. I attended 6 years grade school and 2 yr Jr. High there. Dave, quite a while ago I mailed some Wilson pictures to you. Maybe a search will turn them up. The postings all are great. Bob
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Post by BobLane on Aug 15, 2007 15:58:50 GMT -5
I think I was in the last starting of 1st. grade at Wilson. as classes moved into the 7th. grade more room became available, as no 1st. grade was started. It took 6 years to complete that program, unless they started moving the lower grades to other schools. That is too long ago for me to come up with reliable info. , Bob Lane
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Post by nancs on Aug 22, 2007 9:21:13 GMT -5
Referring back to # 13/14 in 'School Talk in General,' am back at trying to get the booklet scanned and posted. Nanc
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Post by nancs on Aug 22, 2007 9:28:35 GMT -5
"Health" pages of booklet. Anyone recognize these photos?? Nanc
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Post by nancs on Aug 22, 2007 9:48:50 GMT -5
Continuing, and I do get a tad faster at this, as time goes on. ;D Hoping that we can make some identifications of people and schools. Be sure and add any info you know. Thanks. Nanc
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