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Post by richard on Jan 5, 2007 10:55:15 GMT -5
George and I visited the Bartholomew Historical Society at 524 Third Street in Columbus yesterday. In the 1942 - 43 City Directory we found the following information about Dr. Marvin Davis and his fifth street location. This list starts at Franklin Street and continues East to Lafayette Avenue.
501 - 531 Tabernacle Church.
502 The Home Furniture
516 W. S. Fisher MD., M. R. Davis MD.
516 ½ Frank Colgan, Bernard Hunter, Mrs. Walter Parquette, Rosemary Hunteman.
518 J. L. Tilton Dentist
518 Rear F. K. Ellington
522 Vacant
524 Vacant
528 Vacant
530 Vacant
The following was taken from the 1902 City Directory. A new library is being erected at 5th & Mechanic. Note: At some point in time Mechanic was renamed Lafayette Avenue.
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Post by RER on Jan 5, 2007 11:43:15 GMT -5
Great research Richard and George ! I was aware of the name change of Mechanic and Lafayette Street. The one that got my attention was "The Home Furniture" store at 502, which you said was the old Boys Club address. So I guess before the Boys Club the building was selling furniture. The building next to the old library with all the glassed windows (as you emailed and said) was maybe a grocery store ? It would make sense for showcasing the products. Anyway, thanks for your efforts and it must have been fun to research the area. Interesting that you found the library was being built in 1902. The space today looks much different than when we grew up. I found this Dwell Magazine article (2 pages and pictures). The picture is from the new library (Lafayette Street) to Franklin Street; (where the old Boys Club was) which is now the Columbus Reception Center. Enjoy the article and four pictures in the Dwell article. Double click the pictures for more enhanced views. Go here: www.dwell.com/connect/profiles/3055096.htmlBob
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Post by nancs on Jan 6, 2007 11:16:58 GMT -5
" Behind The Beautiful Present 1st Christian Church Or On The Same Property "During the year 1868 records indicate that a grain dealer was housed on the corner of Walnut (now 4th Street) and Mechanic (now Lafayette Street). Now this property was either on the present church land or behind the old Ice Plant. In those days it was convenient to do all your business down brick buildings row of Washington Street and many near side streets, like 3rd, 4th and 5th Streets. Passing note here: 3rd Street was called Tipton in those days, 4th Street was Walnut and 1st Street was Mulberry Street. I don't know what 2nd Street was called. Anyone know ? Named streets were changed to numbers in the 1880s. Bob In a map I found in the Bartholomew County Columbus, Indiana Sesquicentennial 1821 - 1971 book, I found a map on page 5. Beginning with the most southern E - W streets, it begins: Water Mulberry Vernon Tipton Walnut Harrison In Vol. I of History of Bartholomew County, p. 149, it lists as follows: Mulberry = 1st St. Vernon = 2nd St. Tipton = 3rd St. Walnut = 4th St. Harrison = 5th St. Delaware = 6th St. Jefferson = 7th St. Liberty = 8th St. Irwin = 9th St. North = 10th St. Hays = 11th St. Stansifer = 12th St. High = 13th St. Hawpatch = 16th St. Accompanying this info is a bit of how and why the changes were made. Interesting reading. Nanc
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Post by David Sechrest on Jan 6, 2007 14:24:38 GMT -5
Margie, Dr. Davis definitely was along that street someplace when my dad went to him and also my grandparents. He was not upstairs over Murphy's. The time frame would've been during WWII so sometime in the early 40's. Possible he could've had an early office upstairs that we were not aware of. I remember sitting in his waiting room when my grandparents went in for a visit one time and also waiting outside in the car for my dad.
Too bad someone didn't take pictures of this area, but when we had a camera and did take pictures it was usually around the church or in Irwin Gardens.
My dad did confirm that Dr. Davis had his office along 5th Street close to the Boys' Club. [/size] Sorry I'm getting into this discussion so late...
Dr. Davis was our family doctor all throughout my growing up years (i.e., 1950's and 1960's). I don't know what year Dr. Davis moved from that 5th Street address into that "modern looking" building on the southwest corner of 9th and Washington Sts. That's where we always went. The entrance to Dr. Davis' office was on the Washington St. side, with a small flight of stairs one walked up.
It wasn't the least unusual to be waiting in the waiting room, and have the man sitting next to you smoking a cigarette. It's hard to believe these days that anything like that ever happened.
ALSO, it wasn't unusual for Dr. Davis to make house calls, as I remember times he visited me or my sister at 432 Center Street.
The role the family doctor played in our lives was entirely different back then...
Dr. Davis owned that HUGE, two story home on Washington St. for many years. I think that Tom Weatherall bought the place, and now lives there...
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Post by RER on Jan 6, 2007 15:55:18 GMT -5
You're Not Going To Believe This !
Margie and all have talked about Dr. Marvin Davis located on 5th Street, Franklin and Washington Street. Well, Dr. Marvin Davis was not the first medical Davis doctor on Franklin Street. In the 1860s records, there was a Dr. S. Davis on the corner of Franklin Street and Scott Street. I have never heard or read of Scott Street, but maybe someone else may know.
Well, that isn't the end of the story. Doctor Marvin (that had the huge house on Washington Street) had a son named Larry Davis that went to Columbus High School with me in the 1950s and 1960s.
Well, son Larry became a well known doctor of psychology and practiced to my knowledge in Indianapolis or Chicago. Larry was killed in a plane crash within the last few months flying from Chicago area to his office area in Indianapolis. He was highly involved in court cases to my knowledge.
So, since the 1860s, through time Dr. Davis name has hung around. I don't know if the earlier Dr. Davis was related to Marvin or son Larry, but it brings out interesting thoughts from Franklin Street of Columbus.
Bob
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Post by David Sechrest on Jan 6, 2007 16:21:51 GMT -5
" Upstairs Washington Street Brick Building's Offices & Tenants "
As we all know the Washington Street brick buildings downtown are very old and historical. Main stores/shops are on the street level and many shops, craft/skilled services and apartments have been used for a multitude of subjects on the second floor or upper room spaces.
In 1953 The First National Bank's address was 331 Washington Street which is on the corner of 4th Street, and Parker Drug Store was across 4th on the corner also. Above the bank at that time was various offices such as insurance etc. Above Parker Drug Store across 4th upstairs was a Watch Repair owned by Walter Hart.
One of these two buildings in the 1860s housed upstairs the Columbus weekly newspaper. The name of the newspaper was called "Columbus Weekly Union."It is not clear to me which building housed that paper, but that was determined by researching businesses and street addresses and names today. Keep in mind 4th Street was called Walnut in the middle 1800s, and later named a numerical number.
Bob
[/size] Hi Bob!
Back when I was writing the John Crump article for the website, I was most curious about that 4th and Washington Street corner where Parker Drugs was once located.
According to information I received from Jeff Crump, there was once a millinery on the corner of 4th and Washington. A family by the name of Williams owned it. Directly behind the Millinery was a house owned by Jerry Williams, and Francis J. Crump I home just beyond that.
Those homes and places of business were demolished in 1910. That corner building, as we know it today, was built sometime between 1910 and 1913.
For further info, refer to the John Crump article on the website...
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Post by nancs on Jan 7, 2007 18:31:29 GMT -5
Surely, and without a doubt, this is sheer trivia................and just a neighborhood tale. Am sure that many of us can recall stories of the folks that lived in our neighborhood as we were growing up. What prompted me to have this recollection was a recent obit in The Republic. Judging by the age of the deceased would believe he was an older neighborhood boy, living in the vicinity of 7th and Cottage. A dear lady, who was raising a passle of boys, when she wanted one of them, would stand on her front porch and shout the boys' names, beginning with the oldest, and stopping at the one that she wanted to come home...........Donald, Herbert, Marshall.....................Not even 100% certain that these are the names, but might be, it has been many moons since I heard that lady call those boys. That same family had a dog that occasionally roamed the neighborhood, and was cause for one to hightail it to the safety of your house. She was most appropriately named, Tippy, as she was reddish in color with a white tip on her tail. 'Rumor' had it that Tippy was half fox, and quite mean. In looking back, am sure that was a false fear, as Tippy was truly quite obese, with a muzzle filled with white hair, probably indicating she was 'up in years,' and surely not out to attack any of the other neighborhood animals, nor kids. Nothing but trivia. Sheer trivia!!!!!!!!!!! I only post this on the off chance that a family member might be 'on board,' and recognize this family, and appreciate a neighborhood 'insight.' Nanc
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Post by David Sechrest on Jan 8, 2007 17:56:10 GMT -5
" Behind The Beautiful Present 1st Christian Church Or On The Same Property "
During the year 1868 records indicate that a grain dealer was housed on the corner of Walnut (now 4th Street) and Mechanic (now Lafayette Street).
Now this property was either on the present church land or behind the old Ice Plant. In those days it was convenient to do all your business down brick buildings row of Washington Street and many near side streets, like 3rd, 4th and 5th Streets.
Passing note here: 3rd Street was called Tipton in those days, 4th Street was Walnut and 1st Street was Mulberry Street. I don't know what 2nd Street was called. Anyone know ? Named streets were changed to numbers in the 1880s.
Bob [/size] In a map I found in the Bartholomew County Columbus, Indiana Sesquicentennial 1821 - 1971 book, I found a map on page 5.
Beginning with the most southern E - W streets, it begins:
Water Mulberry Vernon Tipton Walnut Harrison
In Vol. I of History of Bartholomew County, p. 149, it lists as follows:
Mulberry = 1st St. Vernon = 2nd St. Tipton = 3rd St. Walnut = 4th St. Harrison = 5th St. Delaware = 6th St. Jefferson = 7th St. Liberty = 8th St. Irwin = 9th St. North = 10th St. Hays = 11th St. Stansifer = 12th St. High = 13th St. Hawpatch = 16th St.
Accompanying this info is a bit of how and why the changes were made. Interesting reading.
Nanc [/quote][/size] For some time now, I have wanted to post a map of Columbus from the Illustrated Historical Atlas of Bartholomew County Indiana 1879. I thought that, once, somewhere on this board, I did post it...maybe not...
Anyway, it is a very interesting map, as someone did take the time to denote certain places of businesses located in downtown Columbus.
The east-west, downtown street names changed from names to numbers sometime in 1879. I did spend some time at the library trying to figure out exactly what date, but either it wasn't mentioned, or I overlooked it. As I recall, it happened sometime between July and November, 1879.
The Historical Atlas mentioned above denotes the east-west streets as numbers.
It's a very exciting map to peruse! As I stated earlier, the names of downtown businesses were written in on the map locations. The only problem is, it appears that whoever did the map decided to add in the boundaries of the different Wards. When the lines were drawn for the Wards, they covered up part of the names of the businesses, and this makes it very difficult to read them!
Ok, so with that, here are some of the places of interest on the map:
Regarding RER's discussions of businesses located on 4th Street, the map shows
1) a China & Porcelain store on the NW corner of Washington & 4th (this would be where the bank is today)
2) a Drug Store on the NE corner of Washington & 4th. Owner is not noted.
3) the 1st National Bank on the SE corner of Washington & 4th, as well as a Drug Store. It is unknown if the Drug Store was located upstairs, or on east of the corner.
4) the Republican Office was located on the north side of 4th Street, just beyond the Drug Store. Just beyond that was an agricultural implement business.
5) Opposite the agricultural place of business was a Blacksmith shop.
6) a series of 5 railroad tracks crossed 4th Street, between Franklin and Lafayette.
7) J. C. Rowley's Lumber Yard was on the NE corner of 4th & Lafayette (Lafayette was still known as Mechanic Street)
8) a "Public Graded School" takes up (almost) the entire block between Pearl & Sycamore, between 6th & 7th Sts, other than two elongated lots on the 6th Street side.
9) Keith's Arcade Building is shown where the Crump Theatre stands today, with Keith's Law Office on the SE corner of Washington & 3rd Streets.
10) "Job Printing," Columbian Office (newspaper) appears to be located in the same building as Keith's Arcade, with another Agricultural Implement Dealer on the NW corner of 3rd & Franklin.
Other items of note are: W. T. Payne's Skating Rink at the end of 4th Street, on the west side of Mill Creek. Mill Creek was dug out and used at some time earlier, and ran from just north of the Wagon Bridge (2nd Street) and dumped back in to the river between 12 and 13th Streets.
The Telegraph Office and American Express Office are shown on the NW corner of 3rd and Franklin. This was the same location as the Bissell House, which later became the Belvedere Hotel. Maybe these were located in the same building as the Bissell.
There were a total of 3 drug stores located on the east side of Washington Street, between 3rd & 4th, as well as a book store north of the alley (east side of Washington).
There is nothing that notes the Crump home on 4th Street. It appears that the Republican offices may be at that location, as FJ Crump had moved from that house to his home on Washington Street (just north of the old Standard Grocery/Hostess outlet).
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Post by nancs on Jan 8, 2007 18:25:32 GMT -5
David, et al, check out 'Washington St., a history, reply 1, page 1, and I 'think' that is a part of the map that you refer to. And somewhere, I have seen even more of that map, anyway, check it out. Nanc
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Post by David Sechrest on Jan 8, 2007 21:31:05 GMT -5
Most of the last several posts really belong in the 1800's folder.
With that said, I will probably be moving many of them from here.
I have posted a link to the downtown Columbus map from the 1879 Atlas. You can find it in the 1800's folder.
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Post by RER on Jan 9, 2007 12:14:57 GMT -5
Sorry all but I didn't realized when we started posting all the 1800s stuff that it shouldn't have been posted in Trivia. Well, I think I have reposted most of it from Trivia to the 1800s. This included comments from David, Nanc and anyone else whom may have commented.
I didn't want to mess the board up but had to do it. I deleted all the same posts from Trivia, however David and Nanc may want to review their Trivia posts that I reposted.
Now, that you all got that..........lets go play golf. LOL
Bob
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Post by RER on Jan 11, 2007 19:56:32 GMT -5
What Are They ? Hint..........normally related to winter use only. Call them antique but still used today. Answer: They are ice skating vise sharpening clamps. Still used by some in the Northern States during icing skating season. Bob
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Post by RER on Jan 18, 2007 1:30:50 GMT -5
" Can You Guess What County Had This License Plate ? " Bob
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Post by RER on Jan 24, 2007 20:11:00 GMT -5
What Is It ?Hint used in 1940s and 1950s.......... ANSWER: Nanc got it right...........it is a can opener. Remember also (if you ate Spam which I love fried) it had a turn key attached to the can top to break off and then insert on side to roll the tin all the way around until the can top came off. Good One Nanc.....!Bob
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Post by nancs on Jan 25, 2007 8:24:20 GMT -5
What Is It ?Hint used in 1940s and 1950s.......... Comment: I will post the answer here on the same page later........... Bob Hmmmm, might this be a can opener? Nanc
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Post by nancs on Jan 25, 2007 8:59:59 GMT -5
What Is It ?Hint used in 1940s and 1950s.......... ANSWER: Nanc got it right...........it is a can opener. Remember also (if you ate Spam which I love fried) had a turn key attached to the can top to break off and then insert on side to roll the tin all the way around until the can top came off. Good One Nanc.....!Bob Hey, Bob, the canned corn beef that I use in a Rueben casserole STILL has that 'key attached' to open the can!!!!!! ;D Nanc
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Post by RER on Jan 25, 2007 9:48:38 GMT -5
Hanging Out Clothes On Lines V.S. Clothes Driers Early Years and Today
Well, I don't remember the exact year Mom got her first drier and it could have been closer to the middle 1950s. Prior to that the old "hang em on the outside lines" like Nanc explained. We had outside lines even after the drier inventions.
I remember my grandmother and mother taking a damp cloth and cleaning the lines before placing the pins on the clothes. Today, (as most do) we have a drier in our wash room but my wife still uses the outdoor spring roll up lines for selected items when the weather permits. Normally, it is just sheets, pillow cases and a few pullover T-shirts. There is nothing like sleeping on fresh sun dried sheets and cases, as well as wearing a T-Shirt from the outdoor lines. The refreshing smell is great !
Now, I realize that some locations in the USA can't do that because of pollution, but not here in the South. The air is fresh and no industries around to smoke em out. Some days in the summer (because of no see bugs) we don't put them outside, but use the indoor drier. The no see gnats (or whatever) prevent a fresh sleep. Anyway, we like the freshness of sun dried better than the bounce smelling inside.
Comment: A no see is a small flying gnat that you really can't see with your eyes. That is what we call them.......LOL
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Post by RER on Jan 25, 2007 10:52:40 GMT -5
What Are These Things ??Hint: Button up it's cold outside Answer: This button-hole starter helped the tailor, seamstress, or home-maker penetrate the fabric and create a beginning hole for the scissors to complete the incision. Then the raw edges were stitched to prevent fraying. Bob
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Post by RER on Feb 3, 2007 14:02:04 GMT -5
History Price That Probably Will Never ReturnPrices in the one dollar ranges became less likely in the late 2003 or so. As of this writing it hugs $2.00 to $2.25 based on where you live today. Swifty Gas Station is located in Columbus Indiana. This picture is shown only to show prices in the time period discussed. Swifty price yesterday was $2.00 per the following address checking system: www.gasbuddy.com/If you check your prices just insert your zip code Bob
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Post by nancs on Feb 11, 2007 12:22:26 GMT -5
A 'mixed post/message,' and sort of what happens when you are 'removed' from Columbus. First, just the posts that Bob put on the boards today--------WOW, you just have to be impressed, with that little hometown, Columbus, and perhaps we, too often just take its 'wonderful-ness' for granted!!!! It is just something that we so grew up with. My native born CA eldest daughter called me last night to relate a story to me. She had 'tagged along' with her 'other half' yesterday for a business appointment he had over in Los Angeles county, of one engineer with another. As the client turned around, my daughter's mouth dropped a foot, as he was wearing a Columbus, Indiana T-shirt showing about the architecture in town. Conversation then took another whole vein, forget the business deal, it all was centered around Columbus and its 'wonderful-ness.' Makes for such a small world. And am thinking I need to 'arm my girls' with some of the website's business cards to pass around. Nanc
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