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Post by David Sechrest on Jun 25, 2006 12:30:05 GMT -5
This restaurant thread just wouldn't be complete without a thread discussing Lucas Brothers.
Lucas Brothers was known for its hamburgers fried with onions.
Lucas Brothers was located at 423 4th Street. If travelling east on 4th, it would have been on the right hand side of 4th between Washington and Franklin.
I believe that National City Bank now occupies the area where Lucas Brothers used to sit.
After all these years, Lucas Brothers still remains in operation. They moved to East Columbus (State Street) sometime shortly after all the redevelopment work in our downtown area.
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Post by Margo CHS Class of 55 on Sept 8, 2006 14:49:06 GMT -5
I had a taste in my mouth today for a Lucas Brothers hamburger. I stopped at the shop which is now located at Indiana and Oak in East Columbus. Ordered 2 hamburgers with extra grilled onions !!
My stomach told me that was a biiiiig mistake ! So I want you all to know I'm suffering with an upset stomach just to let you know... yes..they smell the same and taste the same !! I guess my stomach has changed. The old refrigerator they had at the front of the shop finally gave up the ghost and now they have a new one in it's place.
BUUUUUURP ! Excuuuuse me but I feel better ...Margo
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Post by Babs on Sept 8, 2006 15:07:40 GMT -5
Oh Margo, You are sooo funny! I love Lucas Brothers too and yet it has been a while since we've been there. A good friend used to argue with me that The Brick had better burgers than Lucas Brothers and we would go back and forth. I have now decided he was right after many trips to The Brick in Jonesville. So that is where we usually go when the burger urge hits us. Sorry for your upset stomach; maybe TOO many extra onions??? (Think it is the Chinese that say a good burp means you enjoyed the food!)
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Post by RER on Sept 8, 2006 15:12:02 GMT -5
Where Is The Beano Pills For Margo ?
Margo..........what a hamburger at Lucas Brothers. When we drove to Columbus in late July, our first stop was White Castles (LOL). We love them and can't get them in the South, except frozen White Castles and they aren't that good.
We only stayed three nights so we didn't get to Lucas Brothers, but maybe next round. Speaking of burps........White Castles have a gassing effect also, but we are aware of that before we start. I guess we should all take a "Beano" Pills (prevents gas) before Lucas Bros and White Castle hamburgers.
We love baby Lima beans boiled for a few hours, with a smoked ham hock within. Then top that with hush puppies or corn bread and of course one "Beano Pill" at least 10 minutes before feasting.
Bob
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Post by Ricky_Berkey on Apr 2, 2007 7:37:38 GMT -5
Which side of the alley was the downtown Lucas Brothers shop? Was it directly behind the first National Bank building or was it on the current parking lot on the other side of the alley next to 4th Street Bar?
And while we are looking at that block...did the same building house the Palms, the Hollywood Cafe and the current 4th Street Bar?
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Post by RER on Apr 2, 2007 7:50:37 GMT -5
I believe Lucas Brothers was the South side of alley (going toward Franklin) next to Palms (same side of street) and 4th Street Bar. It wasn't directly behind the First National Bank. Hope this helps.
The Street Lineup (1953 directory):
414 Boaz Demaree (cigars) 414½ Edward Demaree Clifford Wilcox 415 Price Callahan (barber) 416-18 Shultz Pool Hall 416½ Red Men’s Hall, Inguashagua Tribe No 84 IORM, Order of Pocahontas Council no 162 417 Irvin N. Hendershot (jewelry) 419 Columbus Shine Parlor (hat cleaners) Chris Calleres 421 Unger Granite Works 423 Merlin A. Lucas (restaurant) 425 Palms Cafe (tavern) 425½ Henry Goens 426 Donald V. Davis (restaurant) 427 Glenn N. Pierce (billiards) 427½ Harry Cooper 428 Brock Sales & Service 428½ Aparments 1 Donald V. Davis 2 Andy Smith 3 Jefferson A. Luckett 4 Hunter L. Henson 430 Lego Typewriter Co. 432 Charley's Restaurant 433 Hollywood Cafe (tavern) 434-36 Frohman Brothers Grocery 435 The Home Furniture Co. 436½ Raymond J. F. Denk 438 Eckhart Leuchter (bakery) 440 White Star Meat Market
Side note: The Jive Kennel building of today I would have to look again, but it seems last August to appear to be the same. Richard, Margo or Babs will know. The original buildings did not interconnect with the Crump Theater that I recall, and no parking lot like you described. There was an emergency exit door out of the Crump toward Franklin Street direction.
Bob
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Post by Rhonda on Apr 2, 2007 10:08:54 GMT -5
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Post by NLHill on Apr 2, 2007 18:15:57 GMT -5
to ricky re:Lucas Bros. and Jive kennel,
The Jive Kennel was before my time, but I do remember going to the building on the corner of Franklin and 3rd st,the Girls Club, for tap dancing lessons. This would have been around the late 50's. After the club moved, the building was bought by Bob Dalmbert and were law offices. The building then burned, I'm not sure when-80's?-and was rebuilt., so the building there now is a new one.
As for Lucas Brothers, they were directly behind the 1st National bank where they have the walk-up for the ATM now. I worked downtown in the 70's and went there often. They had a big window and you could watch them fry their hamburgers right there from the sidewalk! The aroma of those frying hamburgers and onion was heavenly. When 1st Nat. remodeled Lucas Bros. moved to there present location.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2007 19:23:12 GMT -5
Rhonda....... an excellent card of 5th and Washington St....,would like to have it ha ha. Would you happen to know when Lucas Brothers moved from that location to the one on 4th St.? I have eaten many hamburgers at the 4th St. location, the grill was up front and the exhaust fan would fill that part of 4th St. with that great aroma. I have had a few at the East Columbus location also, sounds great, maybe tomorrow!!!!!!!.
George
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Post by Ricky_Berkey on Apr 2, 2007 20:20:28 GMT -5
In 1939 there were two Lucas Brothers sandwich shops! One at 423 4th and another at 406 5th St (I believe it is the one in Rhonda's pictures). There were no listings at all in 1936 for Lucas. The shop at 423 4th was Hinkle's sandwich shop in 1936. Lucas on 4th Street was torn down around 1982 to make way for a bank parking lot Rhonda....... an excellent card of 5th and Washington St....,would like to have it ha ha. Would you happen to know when Lucas Brothers moved from that location to the one on 4th St.? I have eaten many hamburgers at the 4th St. location, the grill was up front and the exhaust fan would fill that part of 4th St. with that great aroma. I have had a few at the East Columbus location also, sounds great, maybe tomorrow!!!!!!!. George
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Post by richard on Apr 3, 2007 23:27:42 GMT -5
I loved seeing the pictures after following the links that Rhonda posted April 2, 2007 in the Lucas Brothers thread. The railroad can be seen in both pictures and especially in the number 2 card. In the background of the # 2 card you see the City Hall of that time as well as the first # 1 Fire House and to the right, or west of the Fire House is the building that housed the Willie Restaurant in the 50's. You can see that the railroad crossed fifth Street west of that building.
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Post by Ricky_Berkey on Apr 4, 2007 6:25:51 GMT -5
I wonder if they were tearing out the tracks at that time?. The man in the picture was standing in what seemed like a construction zone and there was a big framed picture standing near him. Has anyone ever seen a picture of a train crossing Washington Street where the angled buildings were? There are lots of interurban/trolley pics but I've never seen a actual train. If you go behind the Washington street buildings on the west side of the street you will still see the angled backs of several buildings leading over to the Cerealine building area. I loved seeing the pictures after following the links that Rhonda posted April 2, 2007 in the Lucas Brothers thread. The railroad can be seen in both pictures and especially in the number 2 card. In the background of the # 2 card you see the City Hall of that time as well as the first # 1 Fire House and to the right, or west of the Fire House is the building that housed the Willie Restaurant in the 50's. You can see that the railroad crossed fifth Street west of that building.
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Post by RER on Apr 16, 2007 16:21:50 GMT -5
Lucas Bros. Hamburgers Since late 1920s (Per Present Owner)Actual Address is 1842 Indiana Ave and State StreetStarted in the late 1920s on 5th Street next to long gone Rio Theater, later moved to 4th Street, then moved to corner of 25th and Central Street and today still cooking those great hamburgers at Indiana Ave/State Street. Today's location retains the original stools and serving counters used in the old locations mentioned.. Owner is behind counter near gentleman sitting.Comment: During our recent trip to Columbus I told my wife to be ready for the best hamburger and fried onions sandwich you have ever eaten. She ate one with fries and Pepsi and said this: "You are right" They still taste like the ones in the 1950s. Additional History: Cheri Perkins owner is not related to the Lucas family. She told me that her mother worked at Lucas Bros. on 4th Street long before Cheri's birth. She indicated that when she was old enough she worked also on 4th Street. In 1983 they moved to 25th and Central, behind the First National Bank near the former Tommy Thompson's Camera Shop. They stayed at that location approximately 2-3 years and moved to present Indiana Ave/State Street. Cheri Perkins gave me permission to post this information herein. Bob
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Post by jdhinkle on Jan 28, 2008 14:00:07 GMT -5
Re: Lucas Brothers « Reply #9 on Apr 2, 2007, 8:20pm » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- In 1939 there were two Lucas Brothers sandwich shops! One at 423 4th and another at 406 5th St (I believe it is the one in Rhonda's pictures). There were no listings at all in 1936 for Lucas. The shop at 423 4th was Hinkle's sandwich shop in 1936. Lucas on 4th Street was torn down around 1982 to make way for a bank parking lot NOTE I HAVE SENT MORE INFO ABOUT THESE SHOPS THEY WERE STARTED BY WINFRED HINKLE SOME TIME IN THE EARLY 1930S THERE WERE OTHER SHOPS IN OTHER TOWN IN INDIANA THEY WERE STARTED BY MY GRANDFATHERS NEPHEWS. THIS IS A PICTURE OF WINFRED HINKLE JACK HINKLE
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Post by jdhinkle on Jan 28, 2008 14:14:06 GMT -5
THE FOLLOWING IS AN EXCERPT FROM EMAIL I GOT FROM LEON HINKLE THE YOUNGEST BROTHER OF WINFRED. LEON IS LIVING IN BLOOMINGTON AND IS ABOUT 85 WINFREDS ONE SON TOM IS 67 AND LIVES IN BLOOMINGTON HE WAS BORN IN COLUMBUS IN 1940 THIS IS A PHOTO OF LEON HINKLE IN FRONT OF HIS SHOP IN BLOOMINGTON Got the picture of the Madison place. Yes that was Winfred's place. When he started that, he had one in North Vernon and 2 in Columbus, and started a real dining -room type-by the old shirt factory in Columbus. Charles was running the one in Bloomington, on 10th street. If I remember right, Charles moved on to one in Muncie-for a short time, and Winfred came back to Bloomington, after selling his other places, and took over the 10th st. location. Max and I went to the army, Charles went to the Navy. I was discharged in 1945, and Max and Charles were discharged in 1946. Charles moved to Bicknell, for a store there, and then to Linton, where he stood ground for the place there for about 25 years. Max worked for Charles in both Linton and Bicknell, and I worked for Winfred until his death in 1947 I UNDERSTAND MY FATHER MANAGED THE NORTH VERNON SHOP WINFRED WORKED IN INDY IN THE LATE 20S HE GOT THE IDEA FROM WHITE CASTLE JACK HINKLE THIS IS A PICTURE OF WHAT THE HAMBURGER GUYS WORE IN 1939
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Post by guest on Nov 23, 2008 8:57:47 GMT -5
I remember lucas brother on 4th st but then it was called pop lucas. wasn't there a place on jackson st between 3rd and 2nd sts. called cipes?
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Post by guest on Nov 23, 2008 9:00:44 GMT -5
just had to come back with my reply I stated pop lucas on 4th i meant 5th as it was across from rio theatre
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Post by jdhinkle on Jan 31, 2010 17:10:01 GMT -5
THERE HAVE BEEN SOME DISCUSSIONS ABOUT LUCAS BROTHERS AND HINKLE'S SANDWICH SHOPPES I POSTED SOME TIME AGO THAT THE STORES ON 4TH ST AND 5TH STREET WERE ORIGINALLY STARTED BY WINFRED HINKLE THOSE TWO WERE LATER REFERRED TO AS LUCAS BROTHERS IN 1936 OR SO THERE WAS A THIRD SHOP THAT WAS DESCIBED TO ME AS A REGULAR RESTUARANT NEAR THE SHIRT FACTORY ON WASHINGTON STREET AFTER SOME DISCUSSION WITH WINFRED'S SON TOM WHO CURRENTLY LIVES IN BLOOMINGTON AND SOME EMAIL FROM CHARLIE SNYDER THRU RICHARD I THINK I HAVE A LITTLE MORE INFO THIS IS AN ENTRY FROM THE CARON DIRECTORY THAT SHOW W M HINKLE RESIDING AT 1109 LAFAYETTE AND W M HINKLE IS THE PROPRIETER OF THE HINKLE SANDWICH SHOP AT 1202 WASHINGTON WHEN CHARLIE SENT ME INFO THAT 1202 WASHINGTON WAS TAYLORS GRILL WHICH I ALSO REMEMBERED MY CONCLUSION IS THE 1202 WASHINGTON WAS HINKLE'S TILL 1941 OR EARLY 42 WHEN WINFRED DECIDED TO RETURN TO BLOOMINGTON WITH HIS FAMILY SINCE I WAS BORN IN 1942 I HAD TO RELY ON OTHERS FOR THIS INFORMATION PLEASE NOTEIF YOU LOOK A FEW LINES UP FROM THE HINKLE SANDWICH SHOP ENTRY THERE IS ANOTHER INTERESTING ITEM W M HINKLE, LOWE, SCHEIDT APPEAR TO BE IN A FLYING SERVICE PARTNERSHIP I ASKED WINFRED'S SON BUT HE DIDN'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT IT
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Post by Ricky_Berkey on Feb 1, 2010 7:14:14 GMT -5
Do you know what year that directory listing is from? THERE HAVE BEEN SOME DISCUSSIONS ABOUT LUCAS BROTHERS AND HINKLE'S SANDWICH SHOPPES THIS IS AN ENTRY FROM THE CARON DIRECTORY THAT SHOW W M HINKLE RESIDING AT 1109 LAFAYETTE AND W M HINKLE IS THE PROPRIETER OF THE HINKLE SANDWICH SHOP AT 1202 WASHINGTON
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Post by jdhinkle on Feb 1, 2010 11:49:07 GMT -5
THE BEST I CAN SAY IS IT HAS TO BE AROUND 1940 WINFRED'S SON WAS BORN AT 1109 LAFAYETTE IN MARCH 1940 ROBT HINKLE MY FATHER AND ROBERTA MY MOTHER MOVED TO INDIANAPOLIS PRIOR TO 1942 THE CARON'S DIRECTORY WAS SENT TO ME BY MY COUSIN WHO HAD ACCESS TO THE INFORMATION THRU ANCESTRY.COM I WAS NOT FAMILIAR WITH CARON INFO UNTIL RER SENT ME AN ITEM FROM 1906 ABOUT DANIEL LAMBERT BEING A DRAYMAN Do you know what year that directory listing is from? THERE HAVE BEEN SOME DISCUSSIONS ABOUT LUCAS BROTHERS AND HINKLE'S SANDWICH SHOPPES THIS IS AN ENTRY FROM THE CARON DIRECTORY THAT SHOW W M HINKLE RESIDING AT 1109 LAFAYETTE AND W M HINKLE IS THE PROPRIETER OF THE HINKLE SANDWICH SHOP AT 1202 WASHINGTON
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