Miscellaneous Columbus Indiana Topics

[nancs]

In reading about how the school system in Nineveh fit into the big picture, and will need to alert my uncle and perhaps he may have some additional input having grown up in that area, my question: In the movie, 'Hoosiers,' the high school that was 'the physical representation,' I believe I was told, was in this 'Nineveh' area. Any verification to that???

Nanc

[RER]

Nanc, the movie Hoosiers staring Gene Hackman was a story of truth, about Milan High School in Indiana that won the basketball championship in the 1953-1954 season. Coach Bill Stearman's Columbus Bulldogs played against Milan that year, but got beat. Milan no longer has a high school, but not forgotten in the Indiana Basketball Hall of Fame.

Bob

[RER]

The six early district 1 schools were: (1) Records, (2) Kansas, (3) Stucker, (4) Drybead, (5) Nevill and (6) Hogbottom (also called Renner School).

Bob

[nancs]

Thanks Bob, and some of that info I did know, but not all of it. My question is actually------somewhere, I think in the very beginning of that film, a high school building is shown, not necessarily the 'real school' and I thought it was a high school building in the Nineveh area. Just 'a school' to 'resemble' the real place. I could be way wrong, and I can't remember now the source of that info. Doggone.

Nanc

[RER]

Here is the actual Milan Team in the "Indiana High School Basketball Hall of Fame:"

www.hoopshall.com/inductees/2004/milanteam.html

Bob

[Rod]

Great picture of "THE" team. I wished it had the names of the players with it.

[nancs]

Me again, reference my post # 90 in Misc. Columbus-----I tracked down the 'source' of what my memory was saying, and reportedly, the high school pictured in the beginning of 'Hoosiers' is indeed, the Nineveh High School.

Just clarifying.

Nanc

[nancs]

Jarrod, et al, check out this link/website and down aways is a photo with all the players named.

www.sportshollywood.com/hoosiers.html

AND scroll to the very end of the info, and I believe that everyone in the very first photo is identified.

Nanc

[RER]

"Earliest Log Cabin Schools In Bartholomew County German Township"

PIONEER DAYS

Settlement of German Township

How the People Worked, Eat, Slept and
Lived, With Names of the Old Settlers.

[Clipping from the Columbus Republican, Bartholomew County, Indiana, April 10, 1886] QUOTE:


About 1824 or 1825 there were two log school houses built in the townships. The floors were made of huge puncheons and the lofts of clapboards five feet long. A log was cut out of one side of the house and greased paper pasted over the opening, this served as a window.

For a writing desk we had a large puncheon placed on pins driven in the wall. We had writing paper but little better than ordinary wrapping paper now, ink was made from maple bark and pens from goose quills, such a thing as a lead pencil was unknown. For seats a log would be split open, the flat side turned up, and legs put in it.

A large wooden fire-place and chimneys were built at one end and plastered with mud, the mud being mixed with straw or hog's hair to make it stick. The fire place would be filled with logs six feet long, which would burn nearly all day. The pupils would burn their shins and freeze their backs at the same time.

There were only two or three months of school in the year and not many attended who were old enough to work. We did not have free schools then, as now, nor any money to hire a teacher. If a man could be found who would teach and take his pay in "truck," sheep, a piece of linen a few bushels of corn, etc., they would hire him and when he had taught the amount would quit.

Webster's spelling book was about the only book we had to study. The young folks would meet at each other's houses and have spelling schools and learn a good deal and have much fun. How would our young folks now like this plan of getting an education.

William P. Records (1801 -1889)

[RER]

"Records School House From 1869 to 1942 because of WWII and the Construction of Camp Atterbury"



Notice: The above information on the Records, Kansas and Hogbottom (former Renner) School Houses have been updated with closure and moving data provided by the Atterbury Time Line 1942 article sited. The Records School House was open for 73 years until the US Army bought the school land and the Records' Farm and land on Atterbury. The School was part of the Bartholomew County Nineveh Township school system prior to closure in 1942.

Go back to the same subject above and read the updated information if interested.

Bob

[RER]

"Typical Late 1700s and Early 1800 Log Cabin School Houses"

This is not an Indiana Log Cabin School

My Great, Great Grandfather described the early log cabin schools in the Columbus Republican newspaper in 1886. Here is a small newspaper partial clip of what he said about log cabin schools around 1825 in Indiana:

Columbus Republican, Bartholomew County, Indiana, April 10, 1886

QUOTE IN PART:


"About 1824 or 1825 there were two log school houses built in the townships. The floors were made of huge puncheons and the lofts of clapboards five feet long. A log was cut out of one side of the house and greased paper pasted over the opening, this served as a window.
A large wooden fire-place and chimneys were built at one end and plastered with mud, the mud being mixed with straw or hog's hair to make it stick. The fire place would be filled with logs six feet long, which would burn nearly all day. The pupils would burn their shins and freeze their backs at the same time."

END QUOTE IN PARTS
__________________________________________________

This picture is a typical one room brick school from the 1869 to around the early 1900s and later. This school was located in township of Bartholomew County.



The is a typical school house in Indiana (inside view) around 1880 and later. This picture is from the Bernie Indiana school house. I sat at desks in Bartholomew County just like these.



The American Flag is dated 1888 in this picture. So by looking at all the above you can paint a picture in your minds of the initial log schools and later to the brick ones, all being one room school houses.

Bob

[Babs]

The postcard with the picture of the chow hall at Camp Atterbury brought to my mind about my dad working at the camp teaching some of the recuits during the Summer. The teachers were fed in the officer's mess hall and he said the food was quite good as he remembered it.
He was introduced to some vegetables he had never eaten but some that became life-long favorites of his. They were served family style and the servers kept the platters and bowls filled all the time, so you could eat as much as you wanted.

I remember him telling us about teaching these recruits, who could not read or write, from the beginning Dick and Jane books we all started reading from during the 30's and 40's. It always seemed strange to me that what I considered "grown men", although they were quite young, could not read or write but there were enough of them that the government had to hire local school teachers to come up to the Army camp to teach them.

[mrmoosey]

Hi. Yes Hoosiers was partially filmed at the old Nineveh school. The classroom scenes and their early practice scenes were filmed there. The opening scene of Gene Hackman driving into town was in Nineveh as well.
I lived in Taylorsville at the time. One could be an extra if you were willing to get your hair cut to 50's style. I didn't do it and now wish I had.

[Babs]

Bob,
We love this house and every time we drive down 16th Street, I tell my husband we need to just make plans and spend the night there sometime. We both enjoy staying in B&B's and who says you can't do it even in your own hometown!

Thanks for posting this lovely picture. Last time we were on the grounds of the house, there was a big auction and we went to it. I'm not sure what we bought but it was sure fun to look around at everything.

[RER]

Ruddick-Nugent House 1884
(Currently A Columbus Bed & Breakfast)

In the 1953 Columbus Directory the home was listed under the name of Robert C. Nugent.

The home's property totally engulfed the whole blocks location on 16th Street. Behind the property was the Indiana Tool Company (Metal Stamping). On 17th Street at a 45 degree angle (approximate) was the McKinley School at 1114 17th Street.

Directly across the street from from the Nugent home in 1953 was the home of Dr. Robert Bruce Hart, MD. (deceased). Dr. Hart was a direct descendant of the Hart family that owned the original Columbus Youth Camp Property.

Passing Note: [/b]Babs I think you have a great idea to stay at the B&B even though you all live in Columbus. I think the next time we visit Columbus I will make reservations to stay there in lieu of I-65 motels.

Bob

[Ricky_Berkey]

rer said:

Ruddick-Nugent House 1884
(Currently A Columbus Bed & Breakfast)

Passing Note

[/i]: [/b]Babs I think you have a great idea to stay at the B&B even though you all live in Columbus. I think the next time we visit Columbus I will make reservations to stay there in lieu of I-65 motels.

Bob[/quote]

It would be a great place to stay. Dennis and Joyce Orwin are very gracious hosts and the house is incredibly furnished with furniture that is very much in fitting with the historic nature of the house.

www.ruddick-nugent-house.com/

For another trip be sure to stay at the Columbus INN (the old City Hall at 5th and Franklin) - a very unique B&B in a very unique town.

www.thecolumbusinn.com/

[Ricky_Berkey]

Incidentally, Joyce Orwin is the volunteer coordinator for our Visitor Center tours. She somehow manages to get someone to show up every day to present their particular version of Columbus. Besides the daily tours we also have many special tours given every year for special groups.

rer said:

Ruddick-Nugent House 1884
(Bed & Breakfast)

Thanks Ricky, we plan on staying at this one. We have stayed at the one that was the old City Hall and police station, and it is great !


Bob

[nancs]

Bob, et al, I don't see why I can't post the photos that I took of the Ruddick-Nugent home in July, which is now a bread and breakfast. The innkeepers are the Orwins.

As I recall, when I took the photos, having already gotten frustrated with the one way streets in the immediate area, getting from 17th St. to where I wanted to be on 16th St., and I think that I had to stay in my car to get these shots.

Indeed, it is a beautiful home in Columbus, and my photos surely don't do it justice. I agree with Babs and Bob, surely a place that I would like to stay when visiting in Columbus. Another item added to my ever-growing 'list.'

Nanc

[Babs]

Nanc,
The pictures of the Ruddick-Nugent House are very good. Don't sell yourself short on your photography skills. (Mine usually end up with my thumb in the middle of the picture.) I think you did a fine job of capturing the B&B! :-)

[jimloesch]

Just came from the Ind. History Train. While not specifically connected to Columbus, it is well worth your time to visit. The hours are 9:00 AM /6:00 PM thru Sat. Plan to spend at least 1 1/2 hours not to miss anything. The re-enactor is very good. Maybe you will start making Columbus and Barth. Co. connections. --Jim