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Post by nancs on Nov 11, 2007 11:51:10 GMT -5
Hi Rhonda, No I can't but you have sources in Columbus that can maybe fill in the unknown details. I might suggest that the Court House history records of the building owners be reviewed, the library on 5th has loads of history and maybe the BCHS boxes of memories and records could find something. Another, source would be to contract some of the local Crump family members, that still live in Columbus and some have businesses on Washington Street. Even Harry at the Republic paper might know, He might research the paper's vast storage files of Columbus building history. Lastly, Nanc, Richard, George and David may know or some of the readers on the board here might be able to contribute to your question. Hi, Rhonda, and be assured, I don't know-------------but will direct you to the 'home page' of the Historic Columbus site------and I know that I seem to tend to forget about that collection of really wonderful history-------------On that page, David has compiled a great deal of 'Crump family' history. Don't know if from that you might either find what you are looking for, or perhaps a name that you could use to further your search. Good luck. Nanc
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Post by RER on Nov 11, 2007 13:40:37 GMT -5
Imagination History Walk Through The Late 1940s to Early 1950s (PART ONE of TWO Posts)This memory walk will take you in thought, from the corner of East 3rd & Washington Street to the corner of 4th Street. The businesses and names that occupied the buildings were taken from the 1953 Columbus Directory. This means that some businesses may not be exact, including names. However, they will be very close to that period of time. This street side will be East Washington. Comment: The Mode Theater was almost mid-way down the block. Parking meters ate your coins. 301 Union Starch & Refining Company (former Irwin Bank Formed 1871) 301 ½ Irwin Building Union Starch & Refining Company(office) (founded 1904) Union Sales Corp. (Starch manufacturer)
305-7 Gamble's Inc. (auto accessories) 305 ½ Masonic Temple St John’s Lodge No 20 F&AM, Columbus Chapter no 10 RAM Columbus Commandery No 14 KT John B. Grove Council No 54 Columbus Chapter No 339 OED R&SM Order of DeMolay Order of Rainbow Girls
309-11 J. C. Penney Co.
315 Mode Theater (Shown in Picture) Sidney G. Showalter (Lawyer) Paul D. Lawson (Lawyer)
321 Kitzinger Café 321 ½ Omer B. Cook (massage)
323 Kitzinger Bakery Company Inc. (founded in 1852)
325 The Fair Store (variety store)
327 F. W. Woolworth Co.
329 James K. Zaharako & Sons Confectionery (opened 1900)
329 ½ Frank P. Brockman (real estate)
331 Stilwell Drug Store 331 ½ First National Bank Building 2nd floor Kentucky Central Life & Accident Insurance Company William M. Lienberger (Lawyer) Edward J. Morrison (Lawyer) May & DelVecchio (accountants) David B. Snyder (optometrist) Ferd C. Trautman (accountant) Phillips & Stevenson (Lawyer)
The First National Bank (Oldest Bank In Columbus) Mr. Francis Overstreet was President during this period First National Corp. Of Columbus (insurance and real estate)Comment: First National Bank is 1 of 2 banks in year 1850. One bank went out of business and Joseph I. Irwin opened a new bank in 1871. Source: Partial picture is from George's card pictures. I cut the picture in half and enlarged it so your could read signs. The addresses etc. are from the Columbus 1953 Directory. Store names could have some variations as well as occupants of the upper areas.
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Post by RER on Nov 11, 2007 13:46:09 GMT -5
Imagination History Walk Through The Late 1940s to Early 1950s (PART TWO of TWO Posts)This memory walk will take you in thought, from the corner of West 3rd & Washington Street to the corner of 4th Street. The businesses and names that occupied the buildings were taken from the 1953 Columbus Directory. This means that some businesses may not be exact, including names. However, they will be very close to that period of time. This street side will be West Washington. Comment: Men wore hats, women wore different skirts and many rode bicycles around town. 302 Franklin Ice Cream Store 302 ½ Stevens Beauty Shop Tinkey Alteration Shop Hildebrand Studio (photographer)
304 Brumy's Barber Shop (owner Leonard Brumfield) Mr. Marion Smith worked inside restoration of leather
306 Hull's Business Machines Co.
308 Frank B. Green Jewelry
310 Meyers Sporting Goods Co. (renamed Hoosier Sporting Goods a few years later) 310 ½ Samuel D. Berryman
312 Johnny's Restaurant
312 ½ Fred C. Rethwisch Mrs. Myrtle Rappleye
314 Stucker Brothers Pool Room
314 ½ Mrs. Grace Wood Mrs. Freda Brinker
318 Sanitary Café Tavern 318 ½ Homer M. Rush Jr.
322-26 Goodman & Jester Department Store
328 The Glassner Store (department store)
330-32 Simmen Hardware Co.
336 Schiff's Shoe Store 336 ½ Credit Bureau of Columbus Economy Beauty Shop Henry J. Hilger (tailor) Harold E. Percifield (dentist) Diesel Workers UnionSource: Partial picture is from George's card pictures. I cut the picture in half and enlarged it so your could read signs. The addresses etc. are from the Columbus 1953 Directory. Store names could have some variations as well as occupants of the upper areas.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2007 20:05:57 GMT -5
Bob.... great job on the posts, some of those places and business I had really forgot about, a good refresher course. Sorry, but right off hand I can't help Rhonda with the Crump-Lucas building, you and Nanc headed her in the right direction on that.
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Post by richard on Nov 17, 2007 11:08:56 GMT -5
The following information is part of, The Looking Back column in today’s ‘The Republic’. 1982 - A fleet of trucks valued at more than one million dollars was auctioned at Bakalar Municipal Airport from the closed Courier-Newsom Trucking Company. 1957 - Mayor Fred Owens announced that Columbus would add 135 spaces in off-street parking. He acknowledged that this addition would not solve the parking shortage.
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Post by richard on Dec 15, 2007 19:44:49 GMT -5
"When Did It All Start and End For Columbus High Senior Cords?" Well, I don't know the beginning or ending history of the Columbus High School senior corduroys (cords), but can speak about them during the period of 1955 through most of the 1960s. During my brother's years at Central and the Pearl Street area, he wore just plain light yellow cords and many other seniors wore painted cords. During my time at the 25th Street school, many students also wore the painted yellow senior cords. During late year 1958 I painted my own cords above (not the greatest artist that is for sure) and many other fellow students' cords. In fact students that I ran around with in Franklin Indiana asked me to paint their skirts and pants. I only charged mostly for the paint tubes that were used because it cost almost $6 or $7 in paint to complete the skirt or pants. The ink was indelible from tube pens bought at the Nagel Book and Art store on Washington Street. In my days, a Junior during the last week of their Junior Class was allowed to wear the cords only the last week of that school year. I guess this was a tradition so to speak. Senior cords were worn traditionally on Fridays, but some wore them daily and some everyday. I recall a couple guys wore them and never washed them; which is a story to be left out of here. I washed mine weekly ! As I said I wasn't a good artist but got by with painting as many as I could for other students. One of the best painters in school was classmate Terry Galbraith. He had such wonderful creativity in his art work, and other young guys like Bill Hawkins, and various ladies from art classes. Some had professionals do the paintings. I am pleased for memories that I did mine and some others. Does anyone know the full history or starting and ending of this former CHS tradition ? I understand today it no longer walks in the school halls. Bob's Cords...the waist isn't what it used to be. LOL UPDATE: Received word from a 1969 grad that his class still had some cords that were painted. He believes his class was the last to paint cords. [/b] Also, Richard posted at #90 pictures of pants/skirts painted from Sadie's Family Dining under 1950s. The men's pants at Sadie's came from Peru Indiana High School and the skirts looks like Columbus. Bob [/quote] SOME HISTORY OF SENIOR CHORDS Page Courtesy of Linda Brown
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Post by richard on Dec 23, 2007 15:16:04 GMT -5
This information is from the Looking Back column on December 4, 2007, in ‘The Republic’. The article was from 1957 and it said that the new $100.000.00 Tenth Street bridge was opened to traffic. I believe this replaced the failed Iron Bridge over the Haw Creek
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Post by jdhinkle on Jan 25, 2008 23:03:33 GMT -5
I AM NEW TO THE GROUP BUT I GREW UP IN COLUMBUS AND THE ITEMS 'NANC' ENTERED IN 2005 BROUGHT A LOT OF THOUGHTS BACK TO ME. I LIVE AT 18TH AND CALIFORNIA AND MY BROTHERS AND MY AUNT WALKED TO THE EIGTH ST BALL PARK TO WATCH STEVE WELMERS (THE REFEREE) BIRD PLAY BASEBALL WITH MERCHANTS. I REMEMBER THE MIXED AROMA OF SAPS AND STADLERS AND AFTER THE GAME WE STOPPED AT ELLIS AND HARRIS S FOR A CUSTARD.
A SECOND ITEM I JUST FOUND OUT RECENTLY THAT THE HAMBURGER SHOP ON 4TH STREET BEHIND THE 1ST NAT BANK WHICH I KNEW AS LUCAS BROS WAS ORIGINALLY STARTED BY THE HINKLE FAMILY FROM BLOOMINGTON. WINFRED HINKLE STARTED THAT SHOP AND ALSO THE ONE ON FIFTH A FEW DOORS WEST OF THE RIO THEATER. HE ALSO STARTED ONE DOWN CLOSE TO THE RELIANCE SHIRT FACTORY I UNDERSTAND THIS WAS IN THE 30S WHEN THE INERURBAN WAS STILL RUNNING THIS HINKLE I FOUND OUT WAS MY GRANDFATHERS NEPHEW IF ANYONE HAS PICTURES OR INFO ABOUT PLEASE LET ME KNOW
JACK HINKLE
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Post by David Sechrest on Jan 27, 2008 17:28:26 GMT -5
On Saturday, January 26th, jdhinkle wrote: "A SECOND ITEM I JUST FOUND OUT RECENTLY THAT THE HAMBURGER SHOP ON 4TH STREET BEHIND THE 1ST NAT BANK WHICH I KNEW AS LUCAS BROS WAS ORIGINALLY STARTED BY THE HINKLE FAMILY FROM BLOOMINGTON."
I now wonder if Hinkle's Hamburgers in Madison Indiana is related in any way to Columbus???
Jack, welcome to the Historic Columbus Indiana Message Board! I do not have any pictures or info regarding Hinkle's, but I sure do hope some others here remember, and I also hope that we can come up with some pics at some point in the future!
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Post by jdhinkle on Jan 29, 2008 22:31:42 GMT -5
I WROTE BACK TO RER THAT WINFRED HINKLE ALSO STARTED THE MADISON SHOP IN 1933 WINFRED AND HIS WIFE MILDRED RAN THE STORES HERE BUT EVENTUALLY WENT BACK TO BLOOMINGTON THERE WAS STORE NORTH VERNON THAT MY FATHER MANAGED THAT WAS AROUND 1937 SHORTLY AFTER THAT THEY WENT TO INDIANAPOLIS SOMETIME BEFORE 1942
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Post by jdhinkle on Jan 30, 2008 14:33:00 GMT -5
I KNOW EC PUT THIS IN A LONG TIME AGO BUT WENDEL INC ALSO UNLOADED WOOD FROM THE BOX CARS I DONT KNOW IF HE WILL REMEMBER BUT JOE WARFEL AND I UNLOADED SOME REDWOOD BACK IN 1957 OR 58 THEY ALSO HAD BRICKS THAT WERE MOVED AND STACKED THE MOST FUN WAS DELIVERING WOOD TO A SITE I GOT PAID FOR RIDING IN THE TRUCK BUT THEN I HAD TO HELP UNLOAD BY HAND
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Post by jdhinkle on Feb 6, 2008 17:59:56 GMT -5
I READ THIS THE OTHER DAY AND WANTED TO ADD THIS TO EC'S BLOCKING INSTRUCTIONS I DELIVERED THE INDIANAPOLIS STAR ONLY MONDAY AND SOMETIMES TUESDAY WERE DAYS THAT YOU COULD BLOCK MY RESULT IF THERE WAS MORE THAN 30 PAGES THE BLOCK WAS NOT APPROPRIATE YOU COULD INSERT THE OPEN END OF THE PAGES INTO THE CLOSED SIDE ON THE SHORT THROW HOUSES BUT FOR THE LONG THROWS YOU NEEDED A RUBBER BAND AROUND IT PASSING PAPERS MADE ME REALIZE MILK BOTTLES WERE MADE OF GLASS BACK THEN AND FOR ALL THOSE PAPERBOYS PAPER ON THE ROOF AND BROKEN WINDOWS -- BEEN THERE DONE THAT ONE FUNNY QUOTE ; NOTHING SOUND LOUDER THAN A PAPER HITTING THE STORM DOOR IN THE AM OF THE MORNING My History Part 4 When I was old enough to have a paper route, my bike had a big basket over the front wheel. I recall riding West bound on State Street on my way downtown to pay my paper bill and then pick up my papers. When I got in front of The Midway Barber Shop, some fellow opened his car door as I was passing. The Midway Barber Shop was on the North side of State Street across from The Coffman Drug Store. That big basket was nearly as wide as my handlebars and State Street was two lanes at that time so there was not any extra room between passing traffic and the parked cars. Talk about a quick stop! I had it that day. I had a cut on my forehead and my chin where I hit the edge of his door. He asked about me and I was OK, but the door on his new Oldsmobile groaned when he tried to shut it. The Evening Republican was located at 444 Fifth Street. That address was at the Northwest corner of Fifth and Franklin Streets and we picked up our papers there. The paper was printed in the late afternoon Monday thru Saturday. We paid our bills in the newspaper office until they told the carriers to get a savings account at the bank. After that we paid our bills at the bank. We were told the time to be there for the press run. I can remember “Nick” whose name was Willis Hobard Nichols. He was the supervisor of carriers. He had other work as well. I recall him bringing a thin, stiff cardboard sheet with dents in it into that room. Nick placed it in a hollow cylinder. Well it had to be two cylinders as he then opened a valve and ran lead into the cavity. After it cooled somewhat, he removed this sleeve which had the letters, numbers and pictures on its surface. Nick then slid it onto an arbor and lowered a cutter, and using both hands to operate the cranks, he rotated the cylinder as well as moving it sideways. This action made the lead chips fly as he trimmed the round lead cylinders. His cranking cleared the area that became the newspaper’s margins. When he was finished, he took that cylinder into the press room. We used the room on the Northeast corner of the building and the press was in a room just West of the room we used. A short time after Nick took his last cylinder to the press room the press started a test run. If Nick didn’t come out to make a new cylinder, we knew we could then start to line up to get our papers when the press started again. Herb Hoeltke worked in the afternoons and he got the first papers that came off the press. Those copies were mailed to customers who lived out of town. He loaded his papers into a trailer the paper had attached to a bicycle and took those to the Post Office which was on Washington at Seventh Streets. As we got to the front of the line, we told the press man how many papers we needed. The press left the corner of every fiftieth paper sticking out so the press man didn’t need to make a complete count, just the odd numbers! We then took our papers to the large tables and got our papers ready for our routes. Most paperboys blocked their papers. The papers came off the press folded once from top to bottom as they are today when you buy one at a store or one of the paper boxes along a street. To block a paper we did the following. We put the press fold toward us with the top of the front page down, then using both hands we folded both sides in. You then had a paper in front of you that was one third of the width of the front page. We then folded it three times and then we slipped the top part of the paper into the pocket that was formed when we did the last tri-fold. We then had a rectangular block that had a fold on each side and could be thrown from the middle of the street to the porch on both sides of the street! Without the fold on each side, the paper would try to balloon out and fall short when thrown. If the customer wanted his paper in their street side mailbox, you could slow down and ride by with the blocked paper between your little fingers, open the mailbox with your thumb and forefinger, flip the paper into the box and close the door as you rode past. Sometimes if I hadn’t slowed enough I’d need to turn around and pass the mailbox the second time. Most of the time I was successful on the first pass! The second route I passed included Elmer Strietelmeier’s DX Service Station at the Southeast corner of State and Gladstone. This was before the newspaper started routes in the country and some of the Hamilton Manufacturing Co. employee’s car pooled. Their rides picked them up at the DX station and some bought a paper while waiting on their ride. Therefore, I had several customers with one stop. We had to collect each week and Mr. Strietelmeier paid me. I loved making one stop to collect several customers. I also knew when he was open and therefore didn’t need to make a second attempt to collect! Yes, I had one of those metal change makers hanging from my belt. I wore it while collecting on Friday evenings and Saturday mornings. The paper office didn’t want the carriers stopping while passing the paper, but that was the only time you could find some customers home. I always had my receipt book and enough change with me so I could collect if I found someone home that had been absent on Friday evening or Saturday morning! When I moved to my second route, I lost a lot of money when I couldn’t get all of the customers collected. The paper wasn’t any help as we were independent business men! The kid that took that route over never did pay me any of the money that the customers owed me. That money was my profit as we had to pay our bill even when our customers had not paid us. I was also the sub on a route and was going to take that route over because he had almost twice the number of customers than my old route. I was looking forward to the extra money and knew what I wanted to buy! Well at that time the paper decided that two hundred and thirty some customers were too large and divided the route; so I didn’t gain many customers and may have lost a few, but it was near home so I no longer had to pedal across town to collect! I did buy, among other things, a cartridge powered b-b pistol, camera, 22 rifle and saved enough’ to buy my first car, a 1950 Ford. That camera came with a flash attachment. Do you remember flashbulbs and blue tipped flashbulbs? Today, I wish I knew where those pictures are. At that time in my life most likely I didn’t take pictures of buildings, but I may have accidently taken some! I’m sure the Log and Triangle had a photographer on staff and I wonder if any pictures exist that weren’t used in those publications.
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Post by jdhinkle on Feb 6, 2008 18:13:29 GMT -5
TO FURTHER ENHANCE THE MEMORIES AS YOU DROVE A LITTLE FURTHER AND DROVE BY MANUAL HIGH SCHOOL DO YOU REMEMBER THE WHITE CASTLE ON THE RIGHT JUST AFTER THE SCHOOL. "1950s Trip To Indianapolis (Nap Town) Was A Special Deal"I and my brother remember going to the Indianapolis Circle theater as a special treat. Then we had hamburgers at the Tee Pee Restaurant on the way out of town. At the High School Basketball Bulldog's successes (during the state tournaments) we went to Morgan's Restaurant and the Tee Pee in Nap Town. Now how many remember that statement ? How many remember the Tee Pee or Morgans ? Bob
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Post by jdhinkle on Feb 6, 2008 18:23:24 GMT -5
HERES A MEMORY FOR THE GUYS IN THE CLASS OF 1960 NOTICE THE SCHILLER NAME ON THE INVOICE THAT WAS BOB SCHILLER MAYBE SOMEONE WOULD REMEMBER JANICE SCHILLER SHE MOVED OUT OF COLUMBUS BEFORE GRADUATING HERE. I REMEMBER MR ADAMS READING HER LETTER TO US IN A SOC CLASS IN SPRING OF 1960 AFTER SHE HAD LEFT. ALSO MR ADAMS ALWAYS HAD CURRENT EVENTS ON THE CHALKBOARD 'THE RED LIGHT BANDIT 'CHESSMAN' EXECUTED'' AND STOCK MARKET WENT OVER 1000 Would you like to compare vehicle prices? I’ve also posted two invoices in the 1960's and one in the 1980's.Scan Courtesy of Charles Snyder
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Post by RER on Feb 6, 2008 18:23:56 GMT -5
Oh yes and the White Castle Hamburgers. I miss them living on the East Coast. They don't have White Castles in this State. However, when we go to Knoxville TN and Columbus IN we get the hamburgers like the old days, and suffer the remainder of the day of gas. Wish we had some of those greats. We don't like the frozen White Castles sold in our stores here.
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Post by RER on Feb 6, 2008 18:36:45 GMT -5
Bob Schiller Oldsmobile Salesman Before Gorden Wilson Owner of Oldsmobile216-218 Jackson Street (behind Courthouse)First, I knew Bob Schiller and his family pretty well because my mother worked as an accountant at the Oldsmobile dealership, and later for Gorden Wilson's Olds. The Schiller family lived on the corner of Central and 17th Street in a brick house. The house last time I was in Columbus is now used as a business of some sort. Janice Shiller was a fine girl and like you I didn't want them to move out of town. When the Schiller's moved they gave their Cocker Spaniel dog to us. It was a blond cocker named Sandy. The dog was the last cocker in our family when I left home for the world endeavors. After the Schiller family moved I don't recall every hearing from them. Janice Schiller 1959Jack Said:
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Post by jdhinkle on Feb 6, 2008 19:13:07 GMT -5
I HAD NOT READ THIS BEFORE JACK KNOX REFERS TO 16TH UNION THAT WOULD BE ACROSS FROM THE MAIN DRUGS HIS NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR TO THE EAST WOULD HAVE BEEN THE BARKHIMERS AND GENE CHAPMAN BARBER SHOP FOR A WHILE NEXT TO THAT. THE FOURTH CORNER SOUTHWEST WAS WHERE SCOTT WOOD'S FAMILY LIVED BEHIND SCOTT WAS DAVID MYERS RESIDENCE THE BOXES HES TALKING ABOUT WERE PROBABLY HORN'S APPLIANCES STORE ON CALIFORNIA ST WE BOUGHT OUR FIRST NEW TV FROM HORN'S IN 1955 IT WAS A 19 INCH PHILCO Hello to all!. First let me tell you a bit about myself, so you will know my stay was a short one. My name is John (jack) Knox. My dad was in the air force, and I guess stationed at Camp Attaberry. We lived in Columbus for 4 years, this was about 1953 to 1958, but it was filled with memories that might be more befitting for 100 years! We lived in 3 different places while there. The 1st place, well it was a white house (now how many white houses can there be in Columbus?) 2 story, where all 3 of us kids slept upstairs. The garage was detached and a bit behind the house. Mom had a little strip garden along the house where we might sometimes pull up goodies to munch on. Cannot recall where it was located, except our street kind of jogged to the left and went on. At the jog to the left of the street I think my mom had a friend she call sis Brumfield (?) who later moved to a new subdivision. My mom was a nurse and worked at the Hospital where my brother was born. We moved from there to 16th and Union north/east corner, brick house with a big porch. This was the center of the universe as far as I was concerned. We had our milk delivered in a little metal box on the steps, which also would hold my school books, if I saw something that just had to be checked out, before going in. I guess I should say here how old I was, I went to 1st, 2nd, and 3rd grade at Saint Bartholomew school. My best friend in the world, which at that time was 3 square blocks, was Jackie Penser (?) who lived across the street on union. We would, and did, go just about any place. I remember one time Jackie told me he had saw some big boxes at this store, and that we needed to get them! The store was maybe a couple of blocks to the west of us, maybe an appliance store, so we dragged them home, and made a fort! Jackie went to the school down the street from us. I think it was on 17th. Now I have read a lot of boards here. Took me about a week, but from reading gazillion posts, I think it was McKinley. I came back in 2002, when I retired, and found the school was apartments or condos. You know leave a place for 40 years and come back, and darn if it hasn’t changed! I was looking for a place to finish off my life in, but land just cost too much, so settled in Arkansas. Most things were still there though, the house I lived in, well all the houses were still there, but different people living in them. I remember the Haunted house on 16th and Home. I think it took up the whole block. I say haunted, because at the time it had a fence with weeds, trees, bushes, mingled in with it. That and my big brother TOLD me it was haunted. I never, never walked on that side of the street! I remember my 1st set of roller skates, still had the key till this last move, and the side walk. The side walk around my block was, well lets say not the best for roller skating, fun to skate, had 3 built in jumping ramps. I sit here trying to think of just how many times I donated skin and blood to that sidewalk, before I could jump those uplifts in the concrete. I also got my 1st bike there…it liked the rose bushes!! No matter what I did, it always ran right into them! Well I guess it got tired of doing that, and one day decided to stop, and then I was ready to try seeing the rest of the world. I had already seen every branch, and thorn of them rose bushes! Donner’s park had a summer program, one time (one of many!) where they had a watermelon eating contest and such. I did not win that, but I did win the best-decorated bike. My brother and sister helped me decorate it, and it won! I got to lead a procession of kids on bikes all over the place. I learned how to swim there. I learned that the merry go round ring (I have read of others who remember this one) was fun, just as long as you could hang on. One time I go to going real fast, and flew off. Once was enough of that! I attended many a show there, one I remember was a magician. He wanted me to stick my hand in his little guillotine… yeah right! I must have made 2 dozen potholders. The house we lived in on union was kind of small, but I guess that was what my father could afford. It got even smaller when my little brother came along! I remember watching TV, Mickey Mouse, Spin and Marty, and on Friday nights….. the Friday night fights, dad liked them. There was a furnace in the basement and every once in a while the door to it would fall, or blow off, and dad would have to go down and put it back on. I remember when dad planted shrubs, or something along the wall of the porch, and put fresh fertilizer on them, oh the smell!! I remember the neighbor on the corner right across from us was a bounty hunter, or so I was told. He would take me out in the country and let me ride his horses. I remember one summer I wanted to have some money, so I grabbed the lawn mower and went door to door. Well I got one customer. A nice little old lady, with a yard where the grass was 3 foot high. Well I got $1 for about 4 hours work, not to bad for a 3rd grader. I went home and crossed the street to the drug store, and got 2 milk shakes. Still had 50 cents left, gave that to my dad. I remember the barbershop just down 16th; use to get a stick of gum if I sat still for him. My older brother use to take me fishing at haws creek. For years I use to call it Hawk creek, till one day my brother said, hawk creek, where was that? Oh well, it was fun no matter what you called it. I never remember catching fish there, just crawdads. Now I do not know if it was just my young mind, or the creek sure has changed, but it sure is a lot different now. I remember buying records from a man who lived, ok now remember this is from the memory of a 3rd grader, on 17th or 18th, home to maple??? I think he sold them out of his garage? I bought Honeycomb, and others there. I remember going to one movie, my sister had to baby-sit me, so she had to take me along. What a date that was for her, guess I owe her one. I remember the basement, I think of the courthouse, had like a museum in it? It was kind of a strange place to me. Now for some of the high points. I remember the first girl I kissed, Cecilia Page. It was winter, and we had built a snowman in her back yard. Well we got behind the snowman and it happened. No bells rang, no fireworks, but I liked it just the same. I use to roller-skate with her in her basement. I remember sitting down and talking to her dad one time, not sure at all what we talked about, but it seemed like ½ hour. It could have been he wanted to know a bit about this boy who was spending some time with his daughter. I guess I was ok, cause he let me come back again. The 1st house we lived in had an out-house. We did not use it as we had indoor plumbing, but could not understand who would have use something like that. Later in life, in Vietnam, I would have used it; it would have been down right nice! I remember one time I was coming home from school on my bike, I was late and using all the shortcuts I knew. I came flying out of an alley, and ran right into a car! I managed to somehow pull one side of the rear bumper off. The poor guy was so concerned that I was ok, and paid no attention to the fact his bumper was hanging off. I remember one time at school; a kid (I think his name was Robert) hit me. I took off after him and he crossed the street…in the middle of it. Now you know the crossing guards are there for a reason, but reason had fled, and was nowhere to be seen. Well the next day, both of us were escorted to Mother Superior. She did listen to our story, as to why we did not use the crosswalk, then got out the paddle. Now the next thing that happened sure did seem strange to me, but saved my skinny little behind. She found out my older brother was in this school, so she sent for him to watch as I got the paddle. When he got there she took the time to explain to him just why I was going to get my hide ripped off. He said… no way. So we stood there and watched Robert get his. I wish I could remember what I was feeling at that point, but I left hating that woman. The next day my dad had to come to school to talk to Mother Superior. We sat there and dad listened to what I had to say, and what she had to say. He said, you are not going to paddle my son for defending himself. I guess she did not remember my dad was in the military and had a slightly different point of view on things. Well I never did get the paddle, but for some reason, they flunked me, had to redo the 3rd grade. By this time my mom was sick with cancer, and dad got transferred to March AFB in Riverside Ca. to see if the desert would help, so I Mother Superior never got a second chance to wail on me. The last house we lived at was south of union and 16th. I don’t remember where, but it was close to the railroad tracks. I remember my older brother was playing baseball with a bunch of the guys, and one of them, slid, or fell, and sliced his arm open on a piece of glass. I think that ended the ball playing there. We were not there long, as we moved to Ca. Being an air force brat, we moved a lot. Mom did not do any better in Ca, so the doctors told dad she might as well be near her kin for the remainder. We moved to Chicago, and stayed there till Mom passed. Then dad got orders for Japan. Spent 3 years there. So many times people ask me, where are you from? I tell them the United States, but grew up in Columbus Indiana. That seems to answer their question, but leaves me wanting. I wish I HAD grown up there, but the time I did spend there sure set the form for how I did grow up. I have returned to visit twice, once in 74, and then when I was house hunting in 2002. Each time I saw changes, each time I felt sadder. There is one thing I can say, Columbus can change all it wants, my memories still stay the same. To all the folks whom I grew up with and lived by, I say Thank You, Thank You for the happiest time of my life. John Knox
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jdhinkle
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Post by jdhinkle on Feb 6, 2008 19:37:37 GMT -5
IT JUST DAWNED ON ME THAT THE JACK KNOX HERE REFERS TO HIS OLDER BROTHER ROBERT, THERE IS A PICTURE IN THE MCKINLEY SCHOOL PORTION OF THE BOARD THAT I POINTED OUT PEOPLE LIKE ME JACK HINKLE, GEORGE HAMILTON. DOUG EMIG. JILL BAKER AND OTHERS I THINK MAYBE JACK KNOX OLBER BROTHER BOBBY KNOW IS RIGHT BEHIND JACK HINKLE AND A LITTLE LEFT Hello to all!. First let me tell you a bit about myself, so you will know my stay was a short one. My name is John (jack) Knox. My dad was in the air force, and I guess stationed at Camp Attaberry. We lived in Columbus for 4 years, this was about 1953 to 1958, but it was filled with memories that might be more befitting for 100 years! We lived in 3 different places while there. The 1st place, well it was a white house (now how many white houses can there be in Columbus?) 2 story, where all 3 of us kids slept upstairs. The garage was detached and a bit behind the house. Mom had a little strip garden along the house where we might sometimes pull up goodies to munch on. Cannot recall where it was located, except our street kind of jogged to the left and went on. At the jog to the left of the street I think my mom had a friend she call sis Brumfield (?) who later moved to a new subdivision. My mom was a nurse and worked at the Hospital where my brother was born. We moved from there to 16th and Union north/east corner, brick house with a big porch. This was the center of the universe as far as I was concerned. We had our milk delivered in a little metal box on the steps, which also would hold my school books, if I saw something that just had to be checked out, before going in. I guess I should say here how old I was, I went to 1st, 2nd, and 3rd grade at Saint Bartholomew school. My best friend in the world, which at that time was 3 square blocks, was Jackie Penser (?) who lived across the street on union. We would, and did, go just about any place. I remember one time Jackie told me he had saw some big boxes at this store, and that we needed to get them! The store was maybe a couple of blocks to the west of us, maybe an appliance store, so we dragged them home, and made a fort! Jackie went to the school down the street from us. I think it was on 17th. Now I have read a lot of boards here. Took me about a week, but from reading gazillion posts, I think it was McKinley. I came back in 2002, when I retired, and found the school was apartments or condos. You know leave a place for 40 years and come back, and darn if it hasn’t changed! I was looking for a place to finish off my life in, but land just cost too much, so settled in Arkansas. Most things were still there though, the house I lived in, well all the houses were still there, but different people living in them. I remember the Haunted house on 16th and Home. I think it took up the whole block. I say haunted, because at the time it had a fence with weeds, trees, bushes, mingled in with it. That and my big brother TOLD me it was haunted. I never, never walked on that side of the street! I remember my 1st set of roller skates, still had the key till this last move, and the side walk. The side walk around my block was, well lets say not the best for roller skating, fun to skate, had 3 built in jumping ramps. I sit here trying to think of just how many times I donated skin and blood to that sidewalk, before I could jump those uplifts in the concrete. I also got my 1st bike there…it liked the rose bushes!! No matter what I did, it always ran right into them! Well I guess it got tired of doing that, and one day decided to stop, and then I was ready to try seeing the rest of the world. I had already seen every branch, and thorn of them rose bushes! Donner’s park had a summer program, one time (one of many!) where they had a watermelon eating contest and such. I did not win that, but I did win the best-decorated bike. My brother and sister helped me decorate it, and it won! I got to lead a procession of kids on bikes all over the place. I learned how to swim there. I learned that the merry go round ring (I have read of others who remember this one) was fun, just as long as you could hang on. One time I go to going real fast, and flew off. Once was enough of that! I attended many a show there, one I remember was a magician. He wanted me to stick my hand in his little guillotine… yeah right! I must have made 2 dozen potholders. The house we lived in on union was kind of small, but I guess that was what my father could afford. It got even smaller when my little brother came along! I remember watching TV, Mickey Mouse, Spin and Marty, and on Friday nights….. the Friday night fights, dad liked them. There was a furnace in the basement and every once in a while the door to it would fall, or blow off, and dad would have to go down and put it back on. I remember when dad planted shrubs, or something along the wall of the porch, and put fresh fertilizer on them, oh the smell!! I remember the neighbor on the corner right across from us was a bounty hunter, or so I was told. He would take me out in the country and let me ride his horses. I remember one summer I wanted to have some money, so I grabbed the lawn mower and went door to door. Well I got one customer. A nice little old lady, with a yard where the grass was 3 foot high. Well I got $1 for about 4 hours work, not to bad for a 3rd grader. I went home and crossed the street to the drug store, and got 2 milk shakes. Still had 50 cents left, gave that to my dad. I remember the barbershop just down 16th; use to get a stick of gum if I sat still for him. My older brother use to take me fishing at haws creek. For years I use to call it Hawk creek, till one day my brother said, hawk creek, where was that? Oh well, it was fun no matter what you called it. I never remember catching fish there, just crawdads. Now I do not know if it was just my young mind, or the creek sure has changed, but it sure is a lot different now. I remember buying records from a man who lived, ok now remember this is from the memory of a 3rd grader, on 17th or 18th, home to maple??? I think he sold them out of his garage? I bought Honeycomb, and others there. I remember going to one movie, my sister had to baby-sit me, so she had to take me along. What a date that was for her, guess I owe her one. I remember the basement, I think of the courthouse, had like a museum in it? It was kind of a strange place to me. Now for some of the high points. I remember the first girl I kissed, Cecilia Page. It was winter, and we had built a snowman in her back yard. Well we got behind the snowman and it happened. No bells rang, no fireworks, but I liked it just the same. I use to roller-skate with her in her basement. I remember sitting down and talking to her dad one time, not sure at all what we talked about, but it seemed like ½ hour. It could have been he wanted to know a bit about this boy who was spending some time with his daughter. I guess I was ok, cause he let me come back again. The 1st house we lived in had an out-house. We did not use it as we had indoor plumbing, but could not understand who would have use something like that. Later in life, in Vietnam, I would have used it; it would have been down right nice! I remember one time I was coming home from school on my bike, I was late and using all the shortcuts I knew. I came flying out of an alley, and ran right into a car! I managed to somehow pull one side of the rear bumper off. The poor guy was so concerned that I was ok, and paid no attention to the fact his bumper was hanging off. I remember one time at school; a kid (I think his name was Robert) hit me. I took off after him and he crossed the street…in the middle of it. Now you know the crossing guards are there for a reason, but reason had fled, and was nowhere to be seen. Well the next day, both of us were escorted to Mother Superior. She did listen to our story, as to why we did not use the crosswalk, then got out the paddle. Now the next thing that happened sure did seem strange to me, but saved my skinny little behind. She found out my older brother was in this school, so she sent for him to watch as I got the paddle. When he got there she took the time to explain to him just why I was going to get my hide ripped off. He said… no way. So we stood there and watched Robert get his. I wish I could remember what I was feeling at that point, but I left hating that woman. The next day my dad had to come to school to talk to Mother Superior. We sat there and dad listened to what I had to say, and what she had to say. He said, you are not going to paddle my son for defending himself. I guess she did not remember my dad was in the military and had a slightly different point of view on things. Well I never did get the paddle, but for some reason, they flunked me, had to redo the 3rd grade. By this time my mom was sick with cancer, and dad got transferred to March AFB in Riverside Ca. to see if the desert would help, so I Mother Superior never got a second chance to wail on me. The last house we lived at was south of union and 16th. I don’t remember where, but it was close to the railroad tracks. I remember my older brother was playing baseball with a bunch of the guys, and one of them, slid, or fell, and sliced his arm open on a piece of glass. I think that ended the ball playing there. We were not there long, as we moved to Ca. Being an air force brat, we moved a lot. Mom did not do any better in Ca, so the doctors told dad she might as well be near her kin for the remainder. We moved to Chicago, and stayed there till Mom passed. Then dad got orders for Japan. Spent 3 years there. So many times people ask me, where are you from? I tell them the United States, but grew up in Columbus Indiana. That seems to answer their question, but leaves me wanting. I wish I HAD grown up there, but the time I did spend there sure set the form for how I did grow up. I have returned to visit twice, once in 74, and then when I was house hunting in 2002. Each time I saw changes, each time I felt sadder. There is one thing I can say, Columbus can change all it wants, my memories still stay the same. To all the folks whom I grew up with and lived by, I say Thank You, Thank You for the happiest time of my life. John Knox
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RER
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Post by RER on Feb 7, 2008 19:56:08 GMT -5
Wake-Up....Ok...All Awake? Go Back In Memory To The 1950s or 1960sHere is a picture that Richard took the other day on 16th Street. Now there has been discussion about what businesses were in these buildings during the 1950s? Well, I will offer only two items that I remember and were discussed. What do the Old Timers and maybe even younger folks remember about these place? My memories (long building):(1) The furtherest long building there was a Drug Store that had a delivery service. (2) There was a Barber Shop and I was getting a haircut in one of the chairs when the radio announced movie star Grace Kelly had just married the Prince of Monaco. (See Grace's bits below)(3) Now what do you folks remember about these buildings? Grace Kelly Bits: She was a Hollywood Star during the early 1950s. Some of her movies included High Noon (western) 1952, The Country Girl 1954, and To Catch A Thief 1955. She became a Princess when she married the Prince of Monaco in 1956. She died in a vehicle accident in 1982. I didn't remember this information until Richard sent me this picture and several of the board members started to discuss it. That is really wierd to recall that from just a simple picture. Source of picture: Richard on the date shown on the picture.
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jdhinkle
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Post by jdhinkle on Feb 8, 2008 13:46:38 GMT -5
IM GOING FOR THE PRIZE ON THIS ONE THIS IS FUN USING THE 1953 REGISTER I IDENTIFIED WHERE I THOUGHT THIS PICTURE WAS TAKEN AND HERE IS WHAT I THINK I KNOW THE PICTURE WAS TAKEN FROM HOME AVENUE STANDING ON THE BLOCK WHICH CONTAINED THE NUGENT MANSION 1101-09 Acme Electric Supply Company 1108 Lynn R. Barkhimer 1111 no return 1112 Eugene Chapman (barber) 1113 Multi-Press (printers) 1115 Community Hardware & Variety Store 1117 Russell H. Payne (heating apparatus) 1125 Parker’s Matket (grocery) THE ADDRESSES WITH ODD NUMBERS 1101-09,1111,1113,1115 AND 1117 ARE THE LONG BUILDING ON THE LEFT DURING MY CHILDHOOD WANDERINGS 1101 WAS THE MAIN DRUGS IT HAD A SODA FOUNTAIN IN IT. SCOTT WOOD LIVED ACROSS UNION ONE OF OUR OTHERT POST PEOPLE JACK(KNOX) LIVED ON THE NORTHEAST CORNER NEXT TO THE BARKHIMERS 1112 WAS WHERE GENE CHAPMAN HAD A BARBER SHOP LATER HIS SHOP WAS MOVED OVER TO THE LEFT LONG BUILDING.BUT IN THIS PICTURE I THINK THE SHOP WAS BEHIND THE BUILDING TO THE RIGHT PARKERS GROCERY IS AT THE LEFT JUST OUT OF THE PICTURE TO THE LEFT OF PARKERS WAS A RESIDENCE THAT FACED GRAND ACROSS THE GRAND AVE RESIDENCE WAS DR HART RESIDENCE NEXT TO THE HARTS WAS THE RESIDENCE OF RICHIE WILLIAMS SOME MIGHT REMEMBER HIM PLAYING BASKETBALL 1956 OR SO THAT SAME RESIDENCE WAS OWNED BY WILLIAM S HAMILTON OF THE HAMILTON COSCO FAMILY PHILLIP,STANLEY AND CAROL SUE WHO WAS IN MY CLASS. THE HAMILTONS MOVED TO HARRISON LAKE. THE BUILDING ON THE RIGHT WAS A DRUG STORE AT SOME TIME IT FACES HOME AVENUE ONE BLOCK NORTH OF THERE IS MCKINLEY SCHOOL AND WERTZ MEMORIAL CHURCH SOUTH WEST CORNER THERE WAS LAUNDRAMAT WHILE IM NAME DROPPING KEN MCDERMOTT LIVE ON THE CORNER OF 15TH AND GRAND AND JOE AND MIKE PITTMAN LIVED ABOUT THREE HOUSES NORTH OF THE RIGHT BUILDING YOU PROBABLY GUESSED I LIVED CLOSE TO THERE Wake-Up....Ok...All Awake? Go Back In Memory To The 1950s or 1960sHere is a picture that Richard took the other day on 16th Street. Now there has been discussion about what businesses were in these buildings during the 1950s? Well, I will offer only two items that I remember and were discussed. What do the Old Timers and maybe even younger folks remember about these place? My memories (long building):(1) The furtherest long building there was a Drug Store that had a delivery service. (2) There was a Barber Shop and I was getting a haircut in one of the chairs when the radio announced movie star Grace Kelly had just married the Prince of Monaco. (See Grace's bits below)(3) Now what do you folks remember about these buildings? Grace Kelly Bits: She was a Hollywood Star during the early 1950s. Some of her movies included High Noon (western) 1952, The Country Girl 1954, and To Catch A Thief 1955. She became a Princess when she married the Prince of Monaco in 1956. She died in a vehicle accident in 1982. I didn't remember this information until Richard sent me this picture and several of the board members started to discuss it. That is really wierd to recall that from just a simple picture. Source of picture: Richard on the date shown on the picture.
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