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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2005 11:43:31 GMT -5
The Smith Barber shop and Beauty salon was on 10th street, the 2nd house west of Reed St. on the south side of 10th street. It was located in the residence of Eugene Smith, he was a barber and his wife was a hairdresser. Her beauty shop was across the front of the house and the barber shop was on the east side of the house.Eugene's father was a barber and lived next door on the corner of 10th and Reed, his name was Grant Smith. They both cut my hair many times as they were on my paper route, which I had almost 4years.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2005 20:07:26 GMT -5
Seeing the great pictures of 6th and Washington streets and the location of the Lords store took my thoughts back to just after the war, 1947 I believe, and the room just next to the lords location on 6th street. On display for about a week was the famous and short lived Tucker car, it was a sales event with much interest. Being a boy of 12 or 13 and having a strong interest in cars it was an event I never forgot . I remember the engines where sealed and did not require a oil change but every 50,000 miles, the norm back then was every 1,000 miles. It had three head lights, one in the center that turned with the front wheels. Does anyone else remember the Tucker?.
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Post by nancs on Jun 12, 2005 6:53:57 GMT -5
As we swing full bore into the summer months, I think about cooling off with a swim in my youth. Prior to the new pool at the Donner Center, do you remember making the trip to swim at the pool at Brown Co. State Park? Seems to me, that my family would often go on that afternoon, was it Wednesday or Thursday, when the downtown businesses were closed. In my parents' era there was a pool in Donner Park, as I know that my mom shared life guard duties there. That pool, later on, became a "casting pond," fishermen, help out here, as I only think that was what it was called. And it was in the vicinity of the new Donner Pool, perhaps a bit to the south. My understanding about the new pool---that the benefactor (would that be Mr. Donner?) stipulated that all Columbus children would have access to free swimming lessons, as well as some time devoted to free swim. Every weekday morning my friends and I made our way to Donner Park on our bikes, yes, via shortcuts along the RR tracks and cutting across that big field around 10th St. to attend our swimming classes. Once there, we parked our bikes, and made our way inside to the locker rooms. Remember the baskets to store our clothes, and the huge safety pin with a number on it that you got to identify your belongings? I can't say that I recall a mandatory shower, but surely remember the foot bath you had to walk through before you entered the pool area. Didn't someone also check you for "open wounds," as well? And for the girls, there was the required swimming cap----and even purchasing the prettiest one you could afford, they were out and out, NOT a thing of beauty, and did little, in my opinion, to keep your hair dry! ;D Once in the pool area, you went to your assigned corner of the pool. Ready for the lesson. I can't remember how long each class lasted, but know that there were several sessions each morning. And it seems that at the conclusion of all the lessons, there was a brief period for "free swim," prior to the pool closing for a noontime break. As you advanced in your skills you were awarded a Red Cross card indicating your success for each level. The pool reopened in the afternoon and my friends and I most often returned to swim. In my case, I must have gone often enough to warrant the purchase of a summer pass allowing unlimited access to pool priveleges. Know it was a lot of fun to join your friends there for an afternoon of swimming. And probably, a "forbidden game" was tag. Well, perhaps the game itself was not forbidden, but getting out of the pool, and dashing (note I did not say running ;D ) and jumping in away from the person that was "IT," well, that was probably NOT allowed. I attempted that trick once, well once that I was caught ;D----didn't quite make it out of the pool, and cracked my chin open on that little ledge that went around the pool. Now that was NOT a good thing----I was ushered into Mr. Paul Stacker's office----think that is the right name, and he was the director of the pool, and a Lions Club friend of my dad's. Not only had I broken the "pool rules," Mr. Stacker made me call my dad to report my infraction and to tell him that I needed some stitches to repair "the damage!" Take your pick on the punishment, perhaps the worst was not being able to swim until my "injury" healed, altho' waiting for my dad's arrival, sitting in Mr. Stacker's office was NOT a picnic!!!! When we would finish swimming, we often went to the snack bar to purchase a vanilla coke to sip on the bike ride home. In re-reading, there is one other "rest of the story" that I should add. I openly admit that I have the ugliest toes in IN and CA, perhaps all of the USA. ;D And as a kid, was very much aware of that, but tried to just ignore it, especially at the pool!!! Years pass, an individual, whom I desire to keep a close friendship with, therefore, un-named, met up with me in CA, and took one look at me, and said, "I would know you anywhere by just looking at your feet!" Thanks, bunches, good buddy!!! ;D Ah, the carefree times of our youth in Columbus! What do you remember? Nanc
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Post by JamesK on Jun 12, 2005 19:29:53 GMT -5
NANCY--ARE TELLING US YOU DON'T REMEMBER THE OLD DONNER POOL? YOUR NOT THAT MUCH YOUNGER THAN THOSE OF US THAT DO REMEMBER. WHAT I REMEMBER MOST IS THE OPEN-AIR DRESSING ROOMS. I REMEMBER THE WALLS WERE NOT VERY HIGH! YOUR RIGHT, THE OLD POOL WAS USED FOR A WHILE AS A CASTING POOL. I HAD FORGOT ABOUT THAT....FROM AGE 5 - 12 I LIVED AT 14th AND UNION, SO MY SUMMERS WERE SPENT AT JEFFERSON SCHOOL PLAYGROUND AND POOL. AS I RECALL THE POOL AT JEFFERSON WAS A LITTLE SMALLER THAN DONNER AND THEY FILLED AND DRAINED IT EACH DAY. THEY STARTED FILLING IT ABOUT 8 OR 9 O'CLOCK AND STARTED DRAINING IT AROUND 3. THERE WAS A FOUNTAIN IN THE MIDDLE OF THE POOL AND A DRAIN PIPE IN THE CORNER OF THE DEEP END. WE WOULD STAY IN THE POOL UNTIL THE LAST DROP WAS DRAINED OUT....I REMEMBER THE PARK SUPERVISOR WAS MR ELLIOTT. I BELIEVE HE WAS A TEACHER. DOES ANYONE REMEMBER HIM?? THE PARK PROGRAM BACK THEN WAS NOT MUCH DIFFERENT THAN NOW. ALL SORTS OF GAMES AND EQUIPMENT WERE PROVIDED TO US. DOES ANYONE ELSE REMEMBER YOUR SUMMER PLAYGROUND MOMENTS?
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Post by EC on Jun 12, 2005 22:00:36 GMT -5
My recollections about the Casting Pool (old Donner Pool).
I think Margo posted about seeing Mary Belle Poole Barr. She stated that Mary Belle’s mother, Mrs. Harley “Ruth” Poole, worked at the theaters. Mary Belle’s father worked in construction at that time. I think he worked for Dunlap Construction. JamesK, you and I lived near them and I can recall going with Mr. Poole and his son Ed to inspect cement work on weekends. As you were a little older that us, you probably had other things to do. Perhaps he was checking for vandalism, but I recall walking under the decks and seeing the piping and wiring. It was quite a trip for this boy and I got to go along more than once!
I also recall my folks taking my brother and me to the park and seeing the different colored rings in the pool and people casting into the rings. I assume they were casting for prizes. If you go to page 30 of the Columbus Fire Department book, I think the wall you see on the right side of that picture is the cement wall of the dressing room that JamesK is talking about in his posting. JamesK talked about the open top of that dressing room and I can recall the dressing room at Brown County State Park pool being open at the top also.
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Post by nancs on Jun 13, 2005 7:41:03 GMT -5
JK and EC, and everyone else, too! Okay, JK, am thinking that maybe the reason I don't ever remember going to the old Donner Pool was that I was not allowed to venture that far from home when it was operating. Altho' your mention of the outside type dressing rooms did ring a bell. So maybe.......... And EC, as to the casting pool, and I may well be snatched bald-headed for putting in this clipping, ;D but here goes........ So yes, to competitions being held at the casting pool, as I am nearly 100% certain that the above event took place there. And I, too, remember the colored rings. There is lots of room to expand on Donner Park memories. Please share for the pleasure of all. Looking forward to the memories of others. Have a super week. Nanc
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Post by David Sechrest on Jun 13, 2005 9:54:12 GMT -5
It was fun reading all those memories of Donner Pool. Growing up on Center Street in East Columbus, Donner was much too far away for my parents comfort level, so the pool for me turned out to be a hose set up in the back yard with the nozzle set to sprinkle the water out. Me and my friends took our turns running through the water. That, in and of itself was pretty refreshing on a hot Indiana day in July or August. Then, moving to and living in Rosstown, was too far a trip to Donner, so the ponds on McKinney's property, and Bodie's pond out by I-65 became our watering holes. I finally discovered Donner Pool in the summer before my 10th grade year (summer of 1967). I had forgotten all about those baskets and pins they gave you, and I thank Nanc for triggering that memory once again. If I remember correctly, by this time, they had two diving boards. One at 10 or 12 feet, and the other much lower. The lifeguard's seat sat at the edge of the pool in the deep end and he or she had to climb up a ladder of sorts to sit in the seat. The really big thing to do was to see if you could do a cannonball or watermelon just the right way as to totally soak the lifeguard. If you succeeded, your reward, once you cleared the top of the water, was to hear that all famous whistle from the soaking wet lifeguard, and watch him or her motion for you to get OUT OF THE POOL and go sit out (for about 5 or 10 minutes). Me, not really ever fully grasping the technique, only sat out a couple of times due to sheer luck. The other part of swimming that I remember fondly was the old refreshment stand that used to sit over by the shelter house. Someone once told me that this was owned by Bill Becker, who also owned the A&W on 25th Street. And wasn't there also a place where you could buy hotdogs and cokes inside the pool area? Something tells me there was. The park and that summer of 1967 was a real treat. The pool stayed open longer back in those days, as I can remember swimming close to dark (did it close around 9pm?). Great memories...
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Post by Gregg on Jun 13, 2005 13:31:32 GMT -5
David, Donner pool did have both afternoon and evening sessions when I was growing up. The pool probably closed around 9PM. The indoor concession stand was on the pool side of the north-south hallway. I think there was a "walk-up" window, accessable from the pool, but someone else will have to verify that. The concession stand near the playground equipment was run by a guy named Dolph Beck in the '50s and '60s. In addition to selling candybars, softdrinks,balsawood airplanes to lose up in the trees, etc., Mr. Beck also was in charge of checking out tetherball paddles and supervising the annual Easter Egg Hunt and watermelon feast.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2005 22:18:08 GMT -5
Hi James K, Yes I sure do remember Mr. Elliott and all the great summers at Jefferson. If my memory is correct after all the years, do you recall if his first name may have been Pete?, I do remember that he talked alot about fishing. I am sure he was a teacher and had a brother that lived across the street from us on Lafayette street. Those summers at the playgrounds were great.
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Post by David Sechrest on Jun 13, 2005 23:29:18 GMT -5
Gregg, now that you mention it, I do remember checking out the tetherball paddles from the refreshment stand there. For the longest time, I have confused this memory with that of State Street School where paddles and games were gotten from the people on duty.
If you really want to count Short 17th Street, I lived two blocks from Donner Park during this 1967 summer. The Summer of Love to some on the West Coast, but in Columbus Indiana, it was a summer of heat, humidity, and nice cool water at the pool.
I also had a paper route during this time. I delivered the Courier Journal, which meant I had to get up around 4:45 every morning, fold the papers as EC recalled earlier, load them into the big bag, and hit the streets. My route was Franklin, Lafayette, Pearl, and Sycamore south of 16th Street to around 6th Street. Later on, they doubled my route and I got Washington Street, along with all the bars and businesses downtown. The Columbus Bar was one of my stops, and I still remember the smell of the place on my first venture in to collect. I didn't go to the back door, but walked through the front doors, and the smell of stale beer and cigarettes was a strange smell to me. Not only did I have the Columbus Bar, but also the Hollywood. I always made it a point to collect from these places on Friday, late in the afternoon, as the tips were always the best at that time. Strangers would even tip me as I stood there waiting for the bartenders to pay me!
But--back to Donner Park. If I wasn't swimming, my favorite past time was playing tetherball. If I had a dollar for every time I wrapped that ball around the pole, well...
I had a reputation as one of the best tetherball players that summer, and was coaxed into playing in the city tournaments. I was rather shy, and let someone else play in my spot (he ended up getting beat the first round).
Sometimes, I'd just sit on one of the benches near the refreshment stand and watch people. I studied the trees and wondered how old they were. The lights that lined the walkways were old when I used to follow them up to the pool and home again. They are still the same as they were back then.
I bought a picture a few years back when I had a job and money. It's a picture of a boulevard taken in 1934. It's a black and white print, with a 1930's car parked on the right hand side of the picture, and the lights from the car and the streetlights in the background light up. I'm not sure where it was taken, but it reminds me so much of Donner Park, and that's the reason I bought it.
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Post by JamesK on Jun 14, 2005 23:23:33 GMT -5
I THINK YOUR RIGHT GEORGE, IF I REMEMBER RIGHT HIS NAME WAS PETE. MY WIFE IS SURE HE WAS A TEACHER AT McKINLEY.
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Post by LouiseMaple on Jun 16, 2005 8:07:14 GMT -5
This last Monday Nancy Stevens and I met face to face over lunch in San Diego. We had a lot of fun remembering people and places and things we did. It seems a little embarrassing but I recalled the dump that was close to our houses--south east of Cummins (at that time). We would go and see the "treasures" that were thrown away. Next immediate memory was the levee next to the dump. Then on to the fact that Stadler's was "down in a hole" south of 3rd street. I alo recall the odor when Stadler's would render the fat! A memory that I can't get a clear picture has puzzled me for a long time. Do any of you remember buying homemade marshmallows? I think the home was on 3rd, or 4th street between the river and downtown. My brothers would collect steel, iron etc. and take it to the junk yard to make a little bit of money. It seemed as if the junk yard was south east of the court house. Does anyone remember any of this? Louise
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Post by nancs on Jun 16, 2005 9:36:42 GMT -5
Hi Louise, and everyone else----- ......and yes, Louise and I just had the best time talking a mile a minute-----and surely our "other halves" deserve sainthood. Thanks guys, for putting up with us! Louise, you triggered another question for me----and no fair laughing for some of you----I am full of them!!! ;D "Tank house?" Place where the deceased critters were taken? ? Seems that is what it was called, and only remember seeing that place once. And once was enough, thank you very much. Where was it? I'm thinking over south of 2nd? ? Just to make sure----"The Tannery" was a totally different place? ?? Found a picture of that in a Bartholomew Co. paperback book that I have. And until Louise mentioned it, I had completely forgotten about the levee. I know the spot we called "the levee," but in reality would there not have been a lot of similar places there along Hawcreek to contain the flooding waters? In my adult eyes, seems possible to me. And am guessing that the place Jim and David took the metal, was where all our families took the tin cans we saved for the war effort. Anyone have input?? And the War-----blackouts-----and these happened every so often, no lights were to be visible in town. And a person, perhaps called a "block warden" patrolled the neighborhood making certain that everyone was observing the blackout. Know that my dad put coverings over our basement windows and while he was out "patrolling," Mom and I stayed in the basement. Know that my mom did some ironing then. If these "block wardens" wore a black armband, with some initial on it, that is in a box of stuff I have found. If not----heaven only knows what it is and maybe I don't want to know! ;D These strolls down Memory Lane are priceless. Join in the stroll, and take time to smell the roses. Nanc
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Post by David Sechrest on Jun 16, 2005 10:12:34 GMT -5
Kroot's "Junk" Yard was located at 307 1st Street.
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Post by JamesK on Jun 16, 2005 16:36:47 GMT -5
HI NANC...WHAT YOU HAVE REFERRED TO AS THE "TANK HOUSE" WAS CALLED THE COLUMBUS REDUCTION COMPANY OWNED BY HERB BOESCHEN. HE WAS IN THE SADDLE CLUB AND HIS HORSES NAME WAS PAL. THEY LIVED SOUTH OF US ON GLADSTONE. OUR PASTURES SHARED THE SAME FENCE.
I THINK THE LEVY THAT WAS REFERECED WAS BETWEEN THE RIVER AND THE REDUCTION COMPANY, AS WELL AS KROOTS. ALL OF THIS WAS WAY SOUTH OF 1st AND WASHINGTON STREETS. I BELIEVE THE DUMP WAS ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE RIVER BETWEEN COLUMBUS AND GARDEN CITY.
THERE WAS ANOTHER LEVY THAT RAN ALONG THE WEST SIDE OF HAWCREEK JUST ACROSS 3rd STREET BRIDGE. WHEN HAWCREEK BLVD WAS PUT IN, THE OLD LEVY WAS REMOVED. LONNIE JENKINS AND I USED TO RIDE OUR HORES ALONG THAT LEVY TO GET TO THE SADDLE CLUB GROUNDS. WHEN WE GOT TO THE NORTH END OF THE LEVY WE WOULD HAVE TO CROSS A FARMERS FIELD AND COME OUT AT THE OLD MILL JUST SOUTH OF YOUR PLACE. I DON'T REMEMBER THE NAME OF IT, MAYBE FULKS MILL?? THERE WAS NOT A LEVY BETWEEN THE SADDLE CLUB GROUNDS AND THE CREEK. THATS WHY EVERY TIME THERE WAS A FLOOD THE CLUB GROUNDS GOT ITS FAIR SHARE. I THINK YOUR PASTURE WOULD FLOOD ALSO.
HOPE THIS HELPS.
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Post by nancs on Jun 16, 2005 17:42:27 GMT -5
Hi to all, And thanks for clarifying about the "tank house"/reduction place. And would you believe in all the years that I knew Herb Boeschen, I never, ever made that connection. And for heavens sake, my girls even have met him!!!!!! And his horse, Pal, a big chocolate palomino, right, often won in the Parade Horse class, me thinks! And the levee that you mention on the way to Saddle Club Grounds is the one that Louise and I remember. And yes, it was Fulks Mills, thanks to EC and Charlie for putting me on to that name some while back. BUT, think that the "farmer's field" you mention near the mill, was indeed, a "dump," altho' don't think it was used much for those purposes when we were riding through it. When you came out at the mill, my guess is that you rode down part of a block on Cottage, then cut down the alley before 7th, that went through our property. And most likely, I joined you on the way to Saddle Club. ;D From my house we cut across the Kiel's back part of their property that went from Cottage clear to the creek. And I kinda think that "way before Kiel's lived there" that too might have been a "dumping area" and Mr. Kiel filled it all in. I know that Saddle Club Grounds and the pasture field flooded "right regularly." The reason I asked about "other levees"-----we had to go down "embankments" to get into Saddle Club grounds from the west, one more a slope that you could drive down in a car, and the other one right at the end of 8th St. that only horseback riders and courageous bike riders could maneuver. Those houses on 8th St. sat way above the Saddle Club Grounds. I suppose the real definition of a levee would be dirt piled up to prevent flooding, and we just rode on the top of it. Remember I'm just a "girl trying to visualize." ;D So am thinking that the "dump area" by the mill probably flooded some, too. Thanks for all the info, and check "Clubs," think I have another name to add as a Trail Blazer. ;D Nanc
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2005 22:50:36 GMT -5
James K, I do believe that the city dump was located south of Water St. in the 1940"s before it was relocated to the west bank of white river just south of the old 2nd street brigde. I remember that the rats were so big at the old site that the city had open season on them, people took their guns down there shot them, you dare not do that now. Rats the size of my dog, well you have seen my dog, small , ha.
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Post by chs52boblane on Jun 21, 2005 8:40:45 GMT -5
I am not able to drop in often at this time, but something Margo said in one of her posts, about that Fifth Street Bunch got me to thinking. I’m not a poet, but this somehow developed in my thoughts of those days, hope some of you can relate and enjoy it. Love, Bob Lane
That old Fifth Street gang.
Think with me back many a year, Of skinned knees and hands, and often a tear; How boisterous our laughter, how great was our joy, Just us Fifth Street kids with a brand new toy. Kids in the street with sunshine above, That old Fifth Street gang that I love.
Bikes a racing past hopscotch and jacks, Skates a whirling to the corner and back, Trees to climb no matter how high, Bringing scratches and cuts, bandages to tie. Scooters to coast, wagons to shove, That old Fifth Street gang that I love.
We built those famous put together cars, Designed and tested with lots of hours, Old Third Street hill, so steep and so long, Wining that race if nothing went wrong, Hoping for no rain from above, That old Fifth Street gang that I love.
Chasing each other over fences and sheds, Teasing the girls til tears they did shed, Running after whatever, just running for fun, Time was running out, day was about done. Mom was soon calling, suppertime now. Those Fifth Street kids, great kids anyhow.
The wonder of that sweet time we knew, A time more simple, oh how that time flew. Where we learned the art of give and take, The sweet neighbors helped our character to make Those hard nosed teachers making us learn. That Fifth Street gang, their world they would turn.
You know I wonder where they all could be, Did we make a difference that our world could see? Time is running out now, accounting time you know. Those Fifth Street friends; their good oats did sow. To make a little difference, to change some of our world Is what the Savior asks of those He loves, those He died for?
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Post by LouiseMaple on Jun 21, 2005 9:08:02 GMT -5
Bob--what a memory! I lived on "Short Fifth Street" Those things and joys and scraps and scrapes, families and neighbors--bless them all. I don't believe my brothers or I were a part of that gang but we sure did all those things. I've printed it for myself and my kids and grandkids.
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Post by BobLane on Jun 21, 2005 9:23:21 GMT -5
Just for your information, I finally was able to access my old member name and will use it now. I have canceled the new chs52boblane account. Confused yet, I am, Bob Lane
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