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Post by richard on Mar 29, 2010 14:17:35 GMT -5
I found this map that is showing the Mauxferry Road north of Atterbury Fish and Wildlife Area in Johnson County, Indiana. The Atterbury Fish and Wildlife Area is north of the Camp Atterbury Maneuver Training Center. Look for the red line (road) angling to the northwest from the Wildlife area. You can see that the Mauxferry Road is also the east boundary of the Camp Atterbury Maneuver Training Center. Following the red line (road) south you can see the jog as it crosses the Georgetown Road and further south intersects with State Road 46 west of Columbus.
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Post by BobLane on Mar 29, 2010 15:41:06 GMT -5
Don't hold me to this, but I had read sometime ago in some history book or article that the original Mauxferry Rd was started in Southern Indiana and led or was intended to lead to the new capital, Indianapolis. Wish I could remember, but old age does some strange things to the memory. Bob Lane
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Post by RER on Mar 29, 2010 17:44:18 GMT -5
This Post Is Being Repeated From Page 23 Of The 1800s Thread Posted July 2009 Within The 1800s Thread
Comment First: The Mauxferry Road was primarily developed from the first Indiana State Capital of Corydon (on Ohio River) to expedite travel to the new capital of Indiana in Indianapolis. On pages 17, 18, 22 and 23 within the 1800s thread herein are more comprehensive information/data about the Mauxferry Road. Today only bits and pieces of the the original road remain. North of Atterbury Army Camp the road still can be found, leading to U. S. 31 and Franklin Indiana.
REPEAT POST FOLLOWS:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Where Did The Mauxferry or Mocks Ferry or Mouck Port Get The Name (various early settler spellings) For The Port & The Road?
Comment: Today I researched the history of Johnson County that includes Edinburg and the Franklin connection going North to Indianapolis. The name comes from what is said below:
Quote: "About the year 1807 Frederick Mouck, of Virginia, had come to a cabin on the Ohio River, where Mouckport now stands, and established a ferry. This easy crossing of the river drew settlers by way of Corydon and Salem toward the White river country. One of our oldest highways, the Mauxferry road, variously spelled "Mauksferry" and "Mocksferry," was the avenue of travel for many of the early settlers from Kentucky. And by this and other roads leading from the river northward, immigrants pushed their way into the wilderness, and while Johnson county was organized by a legislature sitting at Corydon, within a year thereafter a new state capital was selected, and Indianapolis was agreed upon as the site, although the seat of government was not removed until 1825." END QUOTE
Note: The road as we know passed through Bartholomew County through Johnson County as previously mentioned in these 1800s posts. Other history books I have read didn't mention this nor did the book called The Atterbury Files.
Source: History of Johnson County Indiana, by Elba L. Branigin, A.M.T, Illustrated year 1913, B. F. Bowen & Co., Inc. Indianapolis Indiana
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Post by Jason Hatton on Jul 28, 2010 12:30:43 GMT -5
My Final Belief On Dates Of Two Pictures (1874 or early 1875)The dating of the picture with the grouped ladies in protest has to be dated in the 1870s. I suggest it was 1874 or 1875 because the clock in the Bartholomew County Courthouse was not installed. The clock was installed and started ticking April 3, 1875. Well, I think I have found more evidence to corroborate the deduction that the picture of the ladies could be dated to the 1870's and that the arched facade of what would become Crump's New Theatre existed prior to the 1889 opening. My wife and I were at Mancino's Restaurant (over by the new Best Buy) on Saturday and I noticed a poster that I had seen before, but this time something stood out at me. If you aren't familiar with the poster it is entitled "Columbus Street Story" but has no information on who/when it was created. I know I have seen it other places, but cannot for the life of me recall where. I know it is rare as we (library) do not have a copy. At any rate, this poster gives several versions of streetscapes of Columbus for different decades. What really caught my eye this time is that on the 1870's line is a picture of the 3-arched facade building that would come to house the Crump. The poster does not name the building. However in the next line down (1890's), the same 3-arched facade is present- this time with the familiar wording "Crump's New Theatre." This would seem to show that this building did indeed exist in the 1870's and that the picture of the lady "Crusaders" could be dated correctly to that time frame. My question to this message board: Does anyone have any knowledge of this poster and who created it? It would be great to know where the creator got there information and evidence for this building existing in the 1870's. Any thoughts? Jason
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Post by RER on Jul 28, 2010 12:52:27 GMT -5
Jason:
I had no doubt it was in the 1870s. As you know I stated:
"The dating of the picture with the grouped ladies in protest has to be dated in the 1870s. I suggest it was 1874 or 1875 because the clock in the Bartholomew County Courthouse was not installed. The clock was installed and started ticking April 3, 1875."
It would be nice if someone would take a quality picture of the poster you have mentioned. Also look at the lower corners of the poster or the back if possible to find a printer or some company name. If a picture is taken then scan it and maybe post in on the boards here to see and discuss.
Thanks Jason that is interesting about the poster and double confirms again the 1870s dates.
Bob
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Post by RER on Jul 28, 2010 18:21:20 GMT -5
Army Corp Of Engineers Draws 1845 Map Of Mauxferry Road Name of Book (176 Pages): The History of American Settlement At Camp Atterbury The map below shows all the roads and trails and towns during 1845. The Army book states that the Mauxferry Road was designated an official road to Columbus, Atterbury future camp and on to Franklin during the year of 1825. On page 32 and 33 of the book it provides details of the road from Mauckport/Corydon to Salem, to Brownstown, to Columbus and on to Franklin and past. The road was originally more likely an Indian Trail it says, as was the road from Madison to Columbus. The red spot on the below map is Atterbury it says. Without me writing so much go to the below addresses and read what you desire. Source & Details (Read W/Adobe Reader):Go Here:www.dtic.mil/cgi-bin/GetTRDoc?Location=U2&doc=GetTRDoc.pdf&AD=ADA513125When you try to open this book it is slow just wait & it will arrive. The book is available in HTML. US Army Corps of Engineers Engineer Research and Development Center, January 2010 Publication Number: ERDC/CERL TR-10-3 By: Steven D. Smith & Chris J. Cochran Approved for public release, distribution is unlimited Comments: Many posts have been entered in the 1800s thread about this road. This post and the above publication should clear up any doubts and question about the Mauxferry Road. A significant amount of history is within the book and more about the road. This book details the history of 19th and 20th century farm and community settlement. I just spent the last two hours scan reading this Army Report in book form. It is full of Bartholomew County History and lots of pictures. If you like history about the county, Columbus, Taylorsville and Edinburg this is packed with details.
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Post by Jason Hatton on Jul 29, 2010 14:32:26 GMT -5
After a lot of fact-finding I have discovered the Columbus Street Story poster was created and sold by the Columbus Service League in the 1980's. The Architectural Archives does indeed have a copy of it. The bottom shows that the copyright is by the Columbus Service League and was drawn by Jerry Points. Does anyone know Mr. Points? In rereading "I Discover Columbus" by Will Marsh, I think I finally understand a point that I had glazed over before. "John (Keith) put up his own store building in 1865 at Third and Washington known in my day as the Schwartzkopf building, with Keith's Hall above, reached by an outside stairway on Third Street, which still was there as late as 1880. As road shows become more numerous and well-patronized, he built Keith's Arcade just east, the present Crump's more nearly in theatre form. [/i]" I take this last emphasized wording to mean that the building (or at least the facade) was not changed dramatically when Crump made it into his opera house. So, I am definitely convinced that these pictures show Keith's hall (dog sitting in front of the staircase (red circles)) and Keith's Arcade (the 3 arched facade) taken somewhere between 1874-1875. Sorry I am so slow in coming around to this conclusion as others seemed to make the leap more readily than I! :-)
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Post by RER on Jul 29, 2010 16:27:46 GMT -5
Outstanding research and summary Jason. Thanks for the quality efforts.
Bob
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Post by David Sechrest on Oct 27, 2010 23:30:36 GMT -5
Tidbit from The Republican, August, 1888:
A bad stench arose from the gutter on the north side of George Winan's Grocery this morning and on investigating the cause of it, a man's hand that was badly decomposed, was found. It is supposed to have come from some doctor's office.
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Post by David Sechrest on Oct 28, 2010 0:10:19 GMT -5
The Good Old Days, more about Columbus from 1888
The Water Works Trustees made their report on the extension of the water mains in the north part of the city. It shows the total number of feet laid to be 8,058, taking in nearly 21 squares of territory, and the total cost $6,015.13...
The Marshal reported that he had taken up and impounded 8 head of hogs and collected $8 for the same. Expense of impounding was $5, leaving a balance of $3 for the city...
Sexton of the city cemetery reported that he had dug five graves, amounting to $13 and had made collections to the amount of $15...
Charles Matthews petitioned for permission to run a coal oil wagon, which was granted for 6 months...
The bids for grading and graveling the east end of Sixth Street, from Union east, were opened. Fred Dahn bid 39 cents per lineal foot and C. F. Wetzel 29 cents, but it was considered that the latter bid did not comply with the terms of the ordinance and the contract was awarded to Dahn...
Claims were read and allowed as follows:
Streets and alleys - $41.88 Street lights - $800.00 Council chamber - $10.29 Cemetery - $45.00 Fire Department - $235.00 City officers - $191.67 Police - $100.00
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Post by David Sechrest on Oct 28, 2010 2:17:40 GMT -5
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Post by David Sechrest on Oct 28, 2010 11:22:00 GMT -5
Re: RER's post #485
That link you provide, Bob, is a PDF file. I spent a couple of hours last night reading through it and found parts of it very interesting, especially the talk about small places like Kansas, which no longer exist. There is a lot of information in that document.
You can save the document to your computer. When it opens, click on the "Save" icon (it looks like a little floppy disc).
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Post by RER on Dec 15, 2010 13:01:08 GMT -5
The 1890's - The Age of Immigration & Tabulation InventionColumbus Indiana Was Near Area Center of PopulationLibrary of Congress History Condensed: The 1890 census indicates a population in the United States of 62,979,766, an increase of 25.5% since the 1880 census. Twenty miles east of Columbus, Indiana was the geographic center of U.S. population. Census returns for the first time used Herman Hollerith's tabulating machine and punch cards; Hollerith's firm would later become IBM. Note: The 1880 census (without Mr. Hollerith's machines) took 8 years to finalize the U.S. population. There were 40 states in 1890. The last two were South Dakota and North Dakota making the 40. Because Indiana was the 19th state and Mississippi the 20, for some reason Indiana was still considered the "Center of Polulation" of the 40 total states. Brief On Herman Hollerith: Herman Hollerith (February 29, 1860 – November 17, 1929) was an American statistician who developed a mechanical tabulator based on punched cards to rapidly tabulate statistics from millions of pieces of data. He was the founder of one of the companies that later merged and became IBM. Brief On Map: The below map shows the changing "Center of Population" from right to left over a period of 100 years; from 1790 to 1890. As stated above the 1890 ten year count was centered 20 miles East of Columbus Indiana. The left circled star is the marker area for 1890. The actual location was 20 miles east of Columbus in Decatur County Indinaa.
Immigration Starting In 1892 (after census):Ellis Island, in New York Harbor, opened as the main east coast immigration center. It remained the initial debarkation point for European immigrants into the United States until it closed in 1954. More than 12 million immigrants were processed on the island from 1892 to 1954. Sources of Information: Library of Congress, Wikipedia, America's Best History Time-line 1890s.
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Post by RER on Dec 16, 2010 18:20:25 GMT -5
Center of USA Population Year 1900 Was Columbus IndianaComment: Yesterday, I wrote that Columbus was within 20 miles (east) of the country's Center of Population for the year 1890. Well, come to find out it was east of Columbus in Decatur County Indiana. However, after discovering the next chart, I found that Mr. Henry Marr's farm area during the year 1900 was determined the Center of Population. See the chart and scroll down: www.census.gov/population/www/censusdata/files/popctr.pdfStone Maker Reveals Location:Six miles South East of Columbus in Bartholomew County. The Marker Location (Near Henry Marr Barn): The stone marker is located in Rockcreek Township in Bartholomew County on the old Henry Marr farm. The picture of the stone is on a postcard dated 1907. The below county drawing in red is the Rockcreek Township areas. Sources: George's postcard dated 1907, and Census Goverment Chart reflected for internet call-up above. George had posted this postcard on the boards during 2006.
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Post by RER on Jan 25, 2011 15:38:45 GMT -5
Business Advertisements During 1895 In Columbus
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Post by nancs on Jan 25, 2011 19:37:05 GMT -5
Great post, RER------------note the one about 'Wolf,' that is the address of J. W. O'Bryan's jewelry store---------and when I was little---------Mike Wolf, then owner of the property, lived on the premises-----------check out the J. W. O'Bryan thread for that info. Thanks for sharing. Nanc
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Post by RER on Jan 26, 2011 9:05:29 GMT -5
Great post, RER------------note the one about 'Wolf,' that is the address of J. W. O'Bryan's jewelry store---------and when I was little---------Mike Wolf, then owner of the property, lived on the premises-----------check out the J. W. O'Bryan thread for that info. Thanks for sharing. Nanc Nanc: That was interesting history you wrote awhile back. I had almost forgotten that story until you gave me the heads up to reread about Mr. Wolf. Many old shops and buildings on Washington Street have interesting history. Thanks Nanc for the refreshment about Mr. Wolf.
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Post by Ricky_Berkey on Jan 26, 2011 10:39:39 GMT -5
I told that story about the Wolf family recently to one of the owners of the restaurant that is now there. He didn't know about it ever being a meat market. They had found the name Wolf carved or painted in one of the beams upstairs when they were remodeling the second floor. E Wolf in that ad was Elizabeth Wolf whose husband Michael Sr. had apparently died before they started the market. She ran it with various family members with the property eventually belonging to Michael Jr. who was your childhood memory! Did you ever figure out if the part of the building he was living in is still there? I just can't picture where that might have been. The present building appears to be a conglomeration of different additions done over the years. Great post, RER------------note the one about 'Wolf,' that is the address of J. W. O'Bryan's jewelry store---------and when I was little---------Mike Wolf, then owner of the property, lived on the premises-----------check out the J. W. O'Bryan thread for that info. Thanks for sharing. Nanc
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Post by RER on Jan 26, 2011 14:13:46 GMT -5
Maybe The 1903-1904 Bartholomew County Directory Changes Some Of Our History Details Related To The "E. Wolf" Meat MarketComment: I just researched the directory I referenced above and here are the Wolf family results and addresses: WOLF, ERNST, mgr E. Wolf meat market 425 Washington st, b 429 1-2 Washington st. WOLF, MRS ELIZABETH (wid Michael), (E. Wolf meat market 425 Washington st), h 429 1-2 Washington st. Wolf, Michael, E. Wolf meat market 425 Washington st, b 429% Washington st. Wolf, William, E. Wolf meat market 425 Washington st, b 429% Washington st It appears maybe Ernst Wolf was the Manager (Mgr) during 1903 publications. It does show Elizabeth Wolf was the widow of Michael E. Wolf. It is clear that all were connected to the Wolf Meat Market at 425 Washington Street. Also, it said they all lived up stairs at 429 1/2 near the market. Now, my question is this.....who was Ernst Wolf (the manager)? Could this have been deceased Michael's father? Anyway, it was a good refreshment by Nanc and Ricky Berkey. For the the folks not knowing the "scary story" Nanc wrote during year 2006 go here and read the first two pages: Pg One: columbusin.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=smallbusiness&action=display&thread=266&page=1Pg Two: columbusin.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=smallbusiness&action=display&thread=266&page=2Thanks Nanc for a great true story of the past. _________________________________________ I told that story about the Wolf family recently to one of the owners of the restaurant that is now there. He didn't know about it ever being a meat market. They had found the name Wolf carved or painted in one of the beams upstairs when they were remodeling the second floor. E Wolf in that ad was Elizabeth Wolf whose husband Michael Sr. had apparently died before they started the market. She ran it with various family members with the property eventually belonging to Michael Jr. who was your childhood memory! Did you ever figure out if the part of the building he was living in is still there? I just can't picture where that might have been. The present building appears to be a conglomeration of different additions done over the years. Great post, RER------------note the one about 'Wolf,' that is the address of J. W. O'Bryan's jewelry store---------and when I was little---------Mike Wolf, then owner of the property, lived on the premises-----------check out the J. W. O'Bryan thread for that info. Thanks for sharing. Nanc
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Post by nancs on Jan 26, 2011 18:15:15 GMT -5
Ricky, and whoever else is interested, I haven't been in the building in years, so would sort of 'have to look' for myself to perhaps 'put it all in place.' Am fairly certain the photo of the jewelry store is MIA on these boards and I need to 'repost' it. (Or it is on p. 49 in Tamara Iorio's new book.) With that said-----------let's start at the front door on Washington St............I am guessing that the big wall cases on the left side were close to 8 ft. long, and I would think there were at least 3. The front door to the store was inset about 5 ft. from the sidewalk to accommodate the street display windows. So the retail part of the store, 'back in the day,' would have gone toward the back about 35 ft. (taking into account what was at the very back of this section) or so from what exists today. Then behind that----a work room/Uncle Jack O'Bryan's desk area/mail boy's work table, that extended back another 15 ft., give or take.............AND THEN, the 'room in which Mr. Wolf resided and later died!' Site of my 'scary story!' After Mr. Wolf passed, his quarters were remodeled to accommodate the watch/clock repair part, a watchmaker's bench is roughly 4 ft. or so wide, and there were 3 as I recall along that S wall-----------so to be fair, given that my dad's bench was the first one on the W wall--------would guess that room would have been 18 ft. x however wide the building is, now and then. Beyond that toward the back was the storage area for pottery and china pieces-------one could likely 'establish' the W wall of that area where there is a staircase to the second floor----------and the bathroom upstairs--------in my day, decorated with pin-up girl calendar pictures. Funny what one remembers!!!!!!!! In current observations, the 'back, sort of covered porch' that existed in my day, appears to have been now enclosed.............that area, in depth, about as long as a bicycle, as Donna Hollenbeck Burbrink and I parked our bikes there when we did 'our window shopping.' One other note--------I believe that this building was actually the Wolf residence at one point---------and not so much 'additions' as areas 'remodeled' to accommodate. Coming to Columbus in mid-March, and maybe I can meet up with those interested and see if we can confirm my recollections from miles away, right now, on the west coast. Nanc I told that story about the Wolf family recently to one of the owners of the restaurant that is now there. He didn't know about it ever being a meat market. They had found the name Wolf carved or painted in one of the beams upstairs when they were remodeling the second floor. E Wolf in that ad was Elizabeth Wolf whose husband Michael Sr. had apparently died before they started the market. She ran it with various family members with the property eventually belonging to Michael Jr. who was your childhood memory! Did you ever figure out if the part of the building he was living in is still there? I just can't picture where that might have been. The present building appears to be a conglomeration of different additions done over the years. Great post, RER------------note the one about 'Wolf,' that is the address of J. W. O'Bryan's jewelry store---------and when I was little---------Mike Wolf, then owner of the property, lived on the premises-----------check out the J. W. O'Bryan thread for that info. Thanks for sharing. Nanc
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